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Subject: Re: KIller/Moves.

Author: Dieter Buerssner

Date: 13:16:13 11/12/01

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On November 12, 2001 at 13:10:44, Robert Hyatt wrote:

[much snipped]

>It [space] _could_ be more than 50 for win/lose/draw depending on the indexing >scheme of course.

50 MB is about right. In http://www.icdchess.com/forums/1/message.shtml?197044
I estimated about 35 MB for a rather unsophisticated indexing scheme.

>[...] Yet they [the 4-men tables] obviously represent
>tables of size 64^4th roughly.  Which should be around 16 megs.  The nalimov
>indexing/compression certainly helps a _lot_ but not as much as the compression
>done outside of the indexing.

Certainly, compression is a big factor for the "primitive" tables: all draw, or
all won, etc. For the other tables, I would assume that the indexing helps more
(or at least comparable much) than compression in the pawnless tables.

Compare for example 462 * 64^2 to 64^4. This is almost a factor of 9 already
without any further tricks.

462 is the number of legal unique KK position, where one K is restricted to a
small triangle a1-d1-d4 (it can allways be put there by rotation and/or
mirroring), and when the K is on the diagonal, it is restricted to one half big
triangle (a1-a8-h8 or a1-h1-h8).

Regards,
Dieter




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