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Subject: Re: Lightning list including Fritz 7 and NO MMX

Author: Chessfun

Date: 17:33:41 11/12/01

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On November 12, 2001 at 19:29:28, Mogens Larsen wrote:

>On November 12, 2001 at 18:59:49, Chessfun wrote:
>
>>Actually the page isn't the list he refers to it's at the start of this thread
>>where it states CB gui.
>
>I know. I checked the page instead of the original message, hence the reference.
>
>>Yace and Gandalf 432_h naturally have the penalty of
>>the CB engine adapter and in this case 1'/1" inc that penalty is even greater.
>
>Exactly. Have there been a lot of losses on time?


If I remember correctly, the most time losses were by the Nimzo's.
I don't remember how many by either Yace or Gandalf and I can't check
the pgn right now as it's on the other pc and it's running.


>Why isn't CM 8000 included? It should be less susceptible to the adapter thingy
>and would add to the diversity of the list. The four Fritz 6 mutations, as an
>example, skews the list.


Well believe it or not, I did try CM and while it does fine without increments
it losses on time a minimum or 25% of it's games with an increment. I had
considered adding it but playing those games at 1/0.

While the Fritz engines may appear similar the differences in them are
significant. If you check their results against other engines you'll see
they perform totally different. The same is true of the different versions
a, b and c in testsuites.


>>Deep Shredder and Shredder 5 while they face the same adapter penalty, Deep
>>Shredder is only 8 points behind the native Shredder 5.32.
>
>Given the error bars the difference could be bigger.


Or smaller.


>>All lists are fun arn't they?.
>
>Well...


I'll take that as a no.

Sarah.





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