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Subject: Re: So Sean is a Child?

Author: Fernando Villegas

Date: 11:00:39 06/01/98

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On June 01, 1998 at 12:04:58, Don Dailey wrote:

>On June 01, 1998 at 10:21:26, Fernando Villegas wrote:
>
>>On May 31, 1998 at 22:44:34, Don Dailey wrote:
>>
>>>On May 31, 1998 at 21:16:57, Fernando Villegas wrote:
>>>
>>>>Hi all:
>>>>So Sean is a child? 12 year age? No kidding? I did not know he was.
>>>>Well, then maybe we must see all the thing in a different way. IF it is
>>>>a child and is capable of writting so well even for unfairly insulting
>>>>somebody like Ed, he deserves some credit. Sure is a bright boy,
>>>>although a boy after all. A boy do anything to call atention. Didn't
>>>>you?  And sure, a boy like to use  hard, tought, macho-language. So, I
>>>>would'nt be prepared, as some friends seems to be, to kill the boy if a
>>>>third time he do the same. I like the idea at least one boy is here.
>>>>Maybe tomorrow he will say I am an old fart, stupid grown-Up, a piece of
>>>>latin pig or anything of the sort, but I can tolerate that. You see, I
>>>>am a candidat to be moderator without any desire to moderate too much.
>>>>Yes, as Christophe said, the group moderates itself very well. And maybe
>>>>Sean has learned a lesson after all. That's good. If he were expulsed,
>>>>he wouldn't take more lessons: that's bad.  Let the boy learn even if he
>>>>sin again.
>>>>Fernando, self elected father of all boys in the world.
>>>
>>>Fernando,
>>>
>>>My guess is that he is young, but not a child, maybe late teens.  But
>>>he could be any age.
>>>
>>>I really cannot see you being a father though!  I do not think you
>>>would have the heart to limit a child in any way.  What would you
>>>do if he tried to hurt someone or himself?
>>>
>>>- Don
>>
>>
>>Hi Don:
>>Well, I am a father. Three daughters. The eldest is in happy birthday to
>>day, 17 years. They are happy and smart. And I have puted limits to
>>them, BUT NOT in self expression. They may follow the rules in behaviour
>>to avoid self damage, etc, but they are free to express what they thinks
>>and they do all the time. I think that is a good mixture: free speech
>>and thinking, disciplined behaviour.
>>Regards
>>Fernando
>
>I wondered if you actually did have children.  It sounds like you
>have some good ones.
>
>Unlike you, I tend to think of self expression and speech as
>behaviours too, with just as serious consequences (maybe more
>so) than physical actions.
>
>When I was a child I was disciplined for my behaviour too. But
>my parents considered lying and offending others as unacceptable
>behaviour.  Do you feel this was a limit on my free expression?
>
>- Don


Hi Don:
Well, you have a point. Yes, to talk is a kind of behaviour and to talk
badly is bad behaviour. That's in theoretical terms. In practice no so
much for children as much as they lacks tools for converting words and
thoughts into action. You see, we have no pistols here at the reach of
children hands. I suppose that I also consuider certain statements as
unacceptable, but I try that an actual punishment for a word will not to
become a general rule. I prefer to pay some price in order to keep them
self confident and strong. Nevertheless, I always make them pay a price
too if they trespass the limit. My target is not to create a rule that
can be suffocating. Piece meal politics.
Howe many children you have? Age?
Fernando



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