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Subject: Re: Has anyone kept a record of reported "Techniques" used in DeepBlue?

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 15:03:18 11/13/01

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On November 13, 2001 at 15:37:52, Slater Wold wrote:

>On November 13, 2001 at 13:02:34, Joshua Lee wrote:
>
>>I have seen many argue this point weather or not DB had much in the way of
>>intellegence which makes no sense do you really think that IBM would risk just
>>having a node cruncher?  Don't you think that Someone on the DB team would
>>explain how there are many positions where brute force wouldn't work even if
>>every cpu in the world were connected together?
>>
>>What technigues Can be used together and on micros? Has anyone tried to make
>>their program more like this enigma?
>>
>>Here's what i found:
>>
>>sophisticated quiescence search
>>  - endgame heuristics
>>  - a few small endgame databases
>>  - position repetition detection
>>  - calculates mobility
>>  - evaluates space
>>  - close to 50 tables to evaluate a chess move
>>      (implied that this includes:
>>          piece square tables
>>          pawn bitmaps
>>          open file
>>          coefficient updates after each move (incremental evaluation)
>>
>>Deep Blue can recognize (in hardware) approximately 6,000
>>chess-specific features
>
>DB's features were 75% hardware and 25% software.
>
>With a micro, they have to be 100% software.
>
>Hence the catch on trying to make something "like" it.
>
>DB was the last chess "super computer".  Chess software is made to make money,
>or as a hobby.  Chess hardware is made to spend money, and lots of it.
>
>Although DT I only cost about $5,000.  Less than *most* servers now.  A LOT less
>than Hyatt's quad 700.  (A 700mhz Xeon CPU is about $1,300 right now.  That's
>$5,200 just in CPU's.)


My total machine is worth about $10,000 now.  We just bought another one
identical to my machine to use for our departmental file server.  Only
difference it that the new one has 6 36 gig 10K scsi drives and a raid-5
(hardware) controller.  The chassis is now under $2K.  $5K for the processors,
a couple of hundred bucks for 512mb of RAM, and then the disks of your choice
will give you a quad for under 10K.  I don't know if Intel has released any
quad 900 or quad 1000 certified processors.  They will work in this chassis
when/if they do.



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