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Subject: Re: Hmmmm.... A roller coaster.

Author: Dann Corbit

Date: 22:51:51 11/13/01

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On November 14, 2001 at 01:29:34, Dann Corbit wrote:

>On November 14, 2001 at 01:07:52, Dann Corbit wrote:
>
>>On November 13, 2001 at 23:18:28, Dann Corbit wrote:
>>[snip]
>>>[D]7k/b7/4N3/8/7q/8/5P2/5KRN w - -
>>[snip]
>>
>>How would you like to be in a contest, having achieved this position, and
>>watched the following evaluation as the program thought:
>>
>>white ( 1): setboard 7k/b7/4N3/8/7q/8/5P2/5KRN w - -
>>Stored 8 learned positions into hash table
>>white ( 1):
>>white ( 1): go
>>usetime = 998.00, mintime = 998.00 maxtime = 998.00 tl 998.00 ml 0
>>        20   0.017  -2.99  1t  1.Rg7 Qxh1+ 2.Ke2 {-431}
>>        35   0.017   0.07  1t  1.Ke1 {-91}
>>        55   0.018   0.07  1.  1.Ke1 {-91}
>>        83   0.018  -3.56  2-- 1.Ke1 Qe4+ 2.Kd1 Qxe6 {-431}
>>       120   0.019  -3.56  2t  1.Ke1 Qe4+ 2.Kd1H {-91}
>>       185   0.019  -3.42  2t+ 1.Rg7 Qc4+ 2.Kg1 Qxe6 {-431}
>>       239   0.019  -2.99  2t  1.Rg7 Qxh1+ 2.Ke2 {-431}
>>       493   0.020  -0.39  2t+ 1.Nf8 Bxf2 {-171}
>>       523   0.021  -0.12  2t  1.Nf8 Bd4 {-91}
>>       561   0.021  -0.12  2.  1.Nf8 Bd4 {-91}
>>      1363   0.023  -3.38  3-- 1.Nf8 Qc4+ 2.Ke1 Qb4+ 3.Kd1 Qxf8 {-431}
>>      1842   0.024  -3.59  3t  1.Nf8 Qc4+ 2.Kg2 Qg8+ 3.Kf1 Qxf8H {-431}
>>      3059   0.028  -3.58  3t+ 1.Ng5 Bd4 {-91}
>>      3616   0.029  -0.14  3t  1.Ng5 Qc4+ 2.Kg2 Bd4 {-91}
>>      3707   0.030  -0.14  3.  1.Ng5 Qc4+ 2.Kg2 Bd4 {-91}
>>      5828   0.049  -0.14  4t  1.Ng5 Qc4+ 2.Kg2 Qd5+ 3.Nf3 Bd4 4.Ng3 {-91}
>>      6676   0.051  -0.14  4.  1.Ng5 Qc4+ 2.Kg2 Qd5+ 3.Nf3 Bd4 4.Ng3 {-91}
>>     14637   0.087  -0.15  5t  1.Ng5 Qc4+ 2.Kg2 Qf4 3.Nf3 Bc5 {-91}
>>     15934   0.091  -0.15  5.  1.Ng5 Qc4+ 2.Kg2 Qf4 3.Nf3 Bc5 {-91}
>>     25830   0.134  -0.15  6t  1.Ng5 Qc4+ 2.Kg2 Qf4 3.Nf3 Qg4+ 4.Ng3 Bc5 {-91}
>>     31401   0.149  -0.15  6.  1.Ng5 Qc4+ 2.Kg2 Qf4 3.Nf3 Qg4+ 4.Ng3 Bc5 {-91}
>>     93456   0.347  -0.16  7t  1.Ng5 Qc4+ 2.Kg2 Qd5+ 3.Nf3 Kg7 4.Ng3 Kf6
>>                               5.Re1H Bd4H {-91}
>>    107880   0.583  -0.16  7.  1.Ng5 Qc4+ 2.Kg2 Qd5+ 3.Nf3 Kg7 4.Ng3 Kf6 5.Re1
>>                               Bd4 {-91}
>>    299229   1.091  -0.14  8t  1.Ng5 Qc4+ 2.Kg2 Qc6+ 3.Nf3 Kg7 4.Re1H Bd4H
>>                               5.Rd1H Qg6+H 6.Ng3H Bc3H {-91}
>>    335269   1.760  -0.14  8.  1.Ng5 Qc4+ 2.Kg2 Qc6+ 3.Nf3 Kg7 4.Re1 Bd4 5.Rd1
>>                               Qg6+ 6.Ng3 Bc3 {-91}
>>   1087032   3.800  -0.14  9t  1.Ng5 Qc4+ 2.Kg2 Qd5+ 3.Nf3 Kg7 4.Ng3H Bc5H
>>                               5.Re1H Bb4H 6.Re8H Bc5H {-91}
>>   1344074   5.709  -0.14  9.  1.Ng5 Qc4+ 2.Kg2 Qd5+ 3.Nf3 Kg7 4.Ng3 Bc5 5.Re1
>>                               Bb4 6.Re8 Bc5 {-91}
>>   4185744  12.695  -0.15 10t  1.Ng5 Qf4 2.Rg3 Qc4+ 3.Kg2H Bb8H 4.Rh3+H Kg8H
>>                               5.Re3H Qd5+H 6.Nf3H Kg7H 7.Re8H {-91}
>>   4545717  14.948  -0.15 10.  1.Ng5 Qf4 2.Rg3 Qc4+ 3.Kg2 Bb8 4.Rh3+ Kg8 5.Re3
>>                               Qd5+ 6.Nf3 Kg7 7.Re8 {-91}
>>   6617399  21.110  -0.16 11t  1.Ng5 Qc4+ 2.Kg2 Qg4+ 3.Kf1 Qf5 4.Rg3H Bb8H
>>                               5.Re3H Qb5+H 6.Re2H Bf4H 7.Ne4H Qb1+H 8.Kg2H
>>                               Kg7H {-91}
>>   9899762  32.582  -0.16 11.  1.Ng5 Qc4+ 2.Kg2 Qg4+ 3.Kf1 Qf5 4.Rg3 Bb8 5.Re3
>>                               Qb5+ 6.Re2 Bf4 7.Ne4 Qb1+ 8.Kg2 Kg7 {-91}
>>  10235148  33.505  -0.56 12-- 1.Ng5 Qc4+ 2.Kg2 Qg4+ 3.Kf1 Qf5 4.Rg3 Bb8 5.Re3
>>                               Qb5+ 6.Re2 Qb1+ 7.Re1 Qd3+ 8.Kg2 Qg6 9.Re2
>>                               Qxg5+ 10.Ng3 {-431}
>>  10382245  33.904  -1.56 12-- 1.Ng5 Qc4+ 2.Kg2 Qg4+ 3.Kf1 Qf5 4.Rg3 Bb8 5.Re3
>>                               Qb5+ 6.Re2 Qb1+ 7.Re1 Qd3+ 8.Kg2 Qg6 9.Re2
>>                               Qxg5+ 10.Ng3 {-431}
>>  11489890  36.930  -1.63 12t  1.Ng5 Qc4+ 2.Kg2 Qg4+ 3.Kf1 Qf5 4.Rg3 Bb8 5.Re3
>>                               Qb5+ 6.Re2 Qb1+ 7.Re1 Qd3+ 8.Kg2 Qg6 {-91}
>>  13377762  46.015  -1.63 12.  1.Ng5 Qc4+ 2.Kg2 Qg4+ 3.Kf1 Qf5 4.Rg3 Bb8 5.Re3
>>                               Qb5+ 6.Re2 Qb1+ 7.Re1 Qd3+ 8.Kg2 Qg6 {-91}
>>  14411759  48.532  -2.03 13-- 1.Ng5 Qc4+ 2.Kg2 Qg4+ 3.Kf1 Qf5 4.Rg3 Bb8 5.Re3
>>                               Qb5+ 6.Re2 Qb1+ 7.Re1 Qd3+ 8.Kg2 Qg6 9.Ng3 Bxg3
>>                               10.Ne4 {-431}
>>  17927093  58.298  -2.17 13t  1.Ng5 Qc4+ 2.Kg2 Qg4+ 3.Kf1 Qf5 4.Rg3 Bb8
>>                               5.Rh3+ Kg7 6.Rb3 Bf4 7.Nh3 Qd5 8.Ng3 Qxb3
>>                               9.Nxf4 {-241}
>>  20917443  1:13.9  -2.17 13.  1.Ng5 Qc4+ 2.Kg2 Qg4+ 3.Kf1 Qf5 4.Rg3 Bb8
>>                               5.Rh3+ Kg7 6.Rb3 Bf4 7.Nh3 Qd5 8.Ng3 Qxb3
>>                               9.Nxf4 {-241}
>>  29247543  1:34.3  -2.37 14t  1.Ng5 Qc4+ 2.Kg2 Qg4+ 3.Kf1 Qf5 4.Rg3 Bb8 5.Rb3
>>                               Bc7 6.Nf3 Qh3+ 7.Kg1 Bh2+ 8.Nxh2 Qxb3 9.Kg2 Kg7
>>                               10.Ng4 Qd5+ 11.f3 Kf8H {-241}
>>  39669864  2:16.2  -2.37 14.  1.Ng5 Qc4+ 2.Kg2 Qg4+ 3.Kf1 Qf5 4.Rg3 Bb8 5.Rb3
>>                               Bc7 6.Nf3 Qh3+ 7.Kg1 Bh2+ 8.Nxh2 Qxb3 9.Kg2 Kg7
>>                               10.Ng4 Qd5+ 11.f3 Kf8 {-241}
>>  98601706  4:38.2  -1.97 15++ 1.Ng5 Qc4+ 2.Kg2 Qg4+ 3.Kf1 Qf5 4.Rg3 Bb8 5.Re3
>>                               Qb5+ 6.Re2 Qb1+ 7.Kg2 Qg6 8.Ng3 Bxg3 9.fxg3 Kg8
>>                               10.Ne4 Qg4 {-81}
>> 143925821  6:08.3  -0.97 15++ 1.Ng5 Qc4+ 2.Kg2 Qg4+ 3.Kf1 Qf5 4.Rg3 Bb8 5.Re3
>>                               Qb5+ 6.Re2 Qb1+ 7.Kg2 Qg6 8.Ng3 Bxg3 9.fxg3 Qd3
>>                               10.Kf1 Qh7 {-81}
>> 212045774  8:32.1  -0.28 15t  1.Ng5 Qc4+ 2.Kg2 Qg4+ 3.Kf1 Qf5 4.Rg3 Bb8 5.Re3
>>                               Qb5+ 6.Re2 Qd3 7.Ng3 Bxg3 8.fxg3 Qxg3 9.Ne6
>>                               Qf3+ 10.Ke1 Kg8H {HT}
>> 254904660 10:54.6  -0.28 15.  1.Ng5 Qc4+ 2.Kg2 Qg4+ 3.Kf1 Qf5 4.Rg3 Bb8 5.Re3
>>                               Qb5+ 6.Re2 Qd3 7.Ng3 Bxg3 8.fxg3 Qxg3 9.Ne6
>>                               Qf3+ 10.Ke1 Kg8
>
>A Chessmaster look:
>Time	Depth	Score	Positions	Moves
>
>0:00	3/6	-0.42	59404		1. Ng5 Qc4+ 2. Kg2 Qg4+ 3. Kf1
>					Qf4 4. Rg3 Bxf2 5. Nh3 Qc1+ 6.
>					Kxf2 Qxh1
>0:01	4/7	-0.39	189767		1. Ng5 Qc4+ 2. Kg2 Qg8 3. Kf3 Qd5+
>					4. Kg4 Kg7 5. Re1 Qg2+ 6. Kf4 Bxf2
>					7. Nxf2 Qxf2+ 8. Nf3
>0:03	5/8	-0.43	520988		1. Ng5 Qc4+ 2. Kg2 Qg4+ 3. Kf1
>					Qf5 4. Rg3 Bc5 5. Ke2 Qd5 6. Rh3+
>					Kg8 7. f4 Kf8
>0:09	6/9	-0.41	1589121		1. Ng5 Qc4+ 2. Kg2 Qg4+ 3. Kf1
>					Qf4 4. Rg3 Bxf2 5. Nh3 Qc1+ 6.
>					Kxf2 Qxh1 7. Ng5 Qd5 8. Nf3 Qe4
>0:29	7/10	-0.41	4981248		1. Ng5 Qc4+ 2. Kg2 Qg4+ 3. Kf1
>					Qf4 4. Rg3 Bxf2 5. Nh3 Qc1+ 6.
>					Kxf2 Qxh1 7. Ng5 Qd5 8. Nf3 Qe4
>1:12	8/11	-0.98	12213518	1. Ng5 Qc4+ 2. Kg2 Qg4+ 3. Kf1
>					Qf5 4. Rg3 Bb8 5. Re3 Qb5+ 6. Re2
>					Qd3 7. f3 Bf4 8. Ne4 Qxf3+ 9. Nhf2
>					Kg7
>3:11	9/12	-1.62	33366505	1. Ng5 Qc4+ 2. Kg2 Qg4+ 3. Kf1
>					Qf5 4. Rg3 Bb8 5. Re3 Qb5+ 6. Re2
>					Qb1+ 7. Kg2 Qg6 8. Ng3 Bxg3 9.
>					fxg3 Qxg5 10. Kf3
>10:52	10/13	-1.63	115634599	1. Ng5 Qc4+ 2. Kg2 Qg4+ 3. Kf1
>					Qf5 4. Rg3 Bb8 5. Re3 Qb5+ 6. Re2
>					Qb1+ 7. Re1 Qd3+ 8. Kg2 Qg6 9.
>					Ng3 Bxg3 10. fxg3 Qxg5 11. Kf3


Seems neither Crafty nor Chessmaster is as happy with the outcome later on...

White(1): epdpfga \ng5.epd ng5.out
PFGA: EPD record: 1
end-game phase
              clearing hash tables
              time surplus   0.00  time limit 16:39 (16:39)
         nss  depth   time  score   variation (1)
                8     0.45  -0.37   1. Ng5 Qc4+ 2. Kg2 Qg4+ 3. Kf1 Qf5
                                    4. Rg3 Bd4 5. Kg2 Kg8
                8->   0.58  -0.37   1. Ng5 Qc4+ 2. Kg2 Qg4+ 3. Kf1 Qf5
                                    4. Rg3 Bd4 5. Kg2 Kg8
                9     1.14  -0.41   1. Ng5 Qc4+ 2. Kg2 Qg4+ 3. Kf1 Qf5
                                    4. Ke2 Bd4 5. Rg3 Qd5 6. f3
                9->   1.56  -0.41   1. Ng5 Qc4+ 2. Kg2 Qg4+ 3. Kf1 Qf5
                                    4. Ke2 Bd4 5. Rg3 Qd5 6. f3
               10     2.62  -0.47   1. Ng5 Qc4+ 2. Kg2 Qg4+ 3. Kf1 Qf5
                                    4. Rg3 Bd4 5. Nf3 Bc3 6. Ng5 Bd4
               10->   3.14  -0.47   1. Ng5 Qc4+ 2. Kg2 Qg4+ 3. Kf1 Qf5
                                    4. Rg3 Bd4 5. Nf3 Bc3 6. Ng5 Bd4
               11     5.18  -0.49   1. Ng5 Qc4+ 2. Kg2 Qg4+ 3. Kf1 Qf5
                                    4. Rg3 Bb8 5. Re3 Qxg5 6. Re8+ Kg7
                                    7. Rxb8 Kg6
               11->   7.39  -0.49   1. Ng5 Qc4+ 2. Kg2 Qg4+ 3. Kf1 Qf5
                                    4. Rg3 Bb8 5. Re3 Qxg5 6. Re8+ Kg7
                                    7. Rxb8 Kg6
               12    10.30  -0.52   1. Ng5 Qc4+ 2. Kg2 Qg4+ 3. Kf1 Qf5
                                    4. Rg3 Bb8 5. Re3 Bd6 6. Nf3 Qh3+ 7.
                                    Kg1 Qg4+ 8. Kf1 Bf4
               12->  13.72  -0.52   1. Ng5 Qc4+ 2. Kg2 Qg4+ 3. Kf1 Qf5
                                    4. Rg3 Bb8 5. Re3 Bd6 6. Nf3 Qh3+ 7.
                                    Kg1 Qg4+ 8. Kf1 Bf4
               13    14.92     --   1. Ng5
               13    27.55  -1.35   1. Ng5 Qc4+ 2. Kg2 Qg4+ 3. Kf1 Qf5
                                    4. Rg3 Bb8 5. Re3 Qb5+ 6. Re2 Qb1+
                                    7. Re1 Qd3+ 8. Kg2 Qg6 9. f4 Bxf4
               13->  38.26  -1.35   1. Ng5 Qc4+ 2. Kg2 Qg4+ 3. Kf1 Qf5
                                    4. Rg3 Bb8 5. Re3 Qb5+ 6. Re2 Qb1+
                                    7. Re1 Qd3+ 8. Kg2 Qg6 9. f4 Bxf4
               14    39.38     --   1. Ng5
               14    58.43  -1.99   1. Ng5 Qc4+ 2. Kg2 Qg4+ 3. Kf1 Qf5
                                    4. Rg3 Bb8 5. Rh3+ Kg7 6. Rb3 Bf4 7.
                                    Nh3 Qd5 8. Ng3 Qxb3 9. Nxf4
               14->   1:11  -1.99   1. Ng5 Qc4+ 2. Kg2 Qg4+ 3. Kf1 Qf5
                                    4. Rg3 Bb8 5. Rh3+ Kg7 6. Rb3 Bf4 7.
                                    Nh3 Qd5 8. Ng3 Qxb3 9. Nxf4
               15     2:03     ++   1. Ng5!!
               15    10:22  -1.48   1. Ng5 Qc4+ 2. Kg2 Qg4+ 3. Kf1 Qf5
                                    4. Rg3 Bb8 5. Re3 Qb5+ 6. Re2 Qb1+
                                    7. Re1 Qb5+ 8. Re2 <HT>
               15->  11:02  -1.48   1. Ng5 Qc4+ 2. Kg2 Qg4+ 3. Kf1 Qf5
                                    4. Rg3 Bb8 5. Re3 Qb5+ 6. Re2 Qb1+
                                    7. Re1 Qb5+ 8. Re2 <HT>
               16    13:17  -1.48   1. Ng5 Qc4+ 2. Kg2 Qg4+ 3. Kf1 Qf5
                                    4. Rg3 Bb8 5. Re3 Qb5+ 6. Re2 Qb1+
                                    7. Re1 Qb5+ 8. Re2 <HT>
              time=16:39  cpu=100%  mat=0  n=502818420  fh=87%  nps=503k
              ext-> chk=43993412 cap=479119 pp=1356 1rep=1364558 mate=27770
              predicted=0  nodes=502818420  evals=110918545
              endgame tablebase-> probes done=109168  successful=109168



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