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Subject: Re: Test Position: deFirmian-Miles -- Mate in 11

Author: Gian-Carlo Pascutto

Date: 02:02:56 11/14/01

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On November 14, 2001 at 04:39:24, Uri Blass wrote:

>On November 14, 2001 at 04:16:57, Gian-Carlo Pascutto wrote:
>
>>On November 14, 2001 at 04:08:24, Uri Blass wrote:
>>
>>>On November 14, 2001 at 04:00:24, Gian-Carlo Pascutto wrote:
>>>
>>>>On November 14, 2001 at 02:32:43, Dann Corbit wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>How do I read the distance to mate from this?
>>>>>There is a mate in 10.
>>>>
>>>>My matefinder has no concept of plies,
>>>>and hence mate depth is irrelevant for it.
>>>>
>>>>The solution and first move are guaranteed to be correct though.
>>>>
>>>>--
>>>>GCP
>>>
>>>I guess that it has a tree to prove the mate.
>>>
>>>What is the problem to calculate the number of plies in the longest line that
>>>ends in mate in that tree?
>>
>>That value doesn't learn you much.
>>
>>If it picks a suboptimal solution, it may find a mate in 100 somewhere
>>in the tree.
>>
>>You can get nearly the same info now by looking at 'MaxDepth', which
>>is the deepest line it visited. Since it was 27 ply, the mate it found
>>cannot be deeper than 13 moves.
>
>1)mate in 13 is 25 plies of legal moves.
>It can be 27 plies from computer point of view only
>if the computer does not see checkmate by the evaluation function and see the
>checkmate when the king is captured.

You're right, it's a mate in at most 14 then.

>2)If you use no hash tables then Maxdepth is an upper bound but the tree may
>give better upper bound because MaxDepth is also based on lines when mate was
>not found.

I don't use hash tables. I could add another counter that only triggers
on positions where there is a mate.

--
GCP



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