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Subject: Re: Practical Tablebases (much smaller) ?

Author: Rafael Andrist

Date: 05:44:28 11/14/01

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On November 14, 2001 at 07:32:02, Dieter Buerssner wrote:

>On November 13, 2001 at 11:44:23, Rafael Andrist wrote:
>
>>How general is your rule [rook pawns wrong B]?
>>[D]7k/8/8/7P/7P/3B1K2/2B5/8 w - - 0 1
>
>:-) Ooops. Does Wilhelm understand this?

Yes

>I think, it would be not that difficult, but probably it is not worth it.

I agree, but If I implement a function which says draw/win I want to make it as
general as possible. In this case, this costs exactly no more time.

>A Troitzkij study with a similar theme, that Yace gets however:
>
>[D] 5k2/8/8/3R4/6K1/8/3b2pP/8 w - -
>
>White draws.

Wilhelm needs some time (54 sec) to find Rf5+ but don't give a draw score:

 ply     time   value    nodes N    nodes Q    PV
   1       0s    1.28         22        116    Rd5-d8+
   2       0s   -2.60        160        614    Rd5xd2 g2-g1Q+
   3       1s   -2.68        810       1017    Rd5-d8+ Kf8-e7! Rd8xd2 g2-g1Q+
   4       1s   -2.67       2667       1645    Rd5xd2 g2-g1Q+ Kg4-f4! Qg1-f1+
Kf4-e4! Kf8-e7
   5       1s   -2.70      10494       4559    Rd5xd2 g2-g1Q+ Kg4-f4! Qg1-f1+
Kf4-e3! Qf1-e1+ Rd2-e2! Qe1-b4
   6       3s   -2.72      42396      18555    Rd5xd2 g2-g1Q+ Kg4-f3! Kf8-e7
h2-h4 Qg1-h1+ Kf3-g4! Qh1-e4+
   7       7s   -2.73     121841      49765    Rd5xd2 g2-g1Q+ Kg4-f3! Qg1-g5
Rd2-e2 Qg5-b5 Re2-d2 Kf8-f7
   8      20s   -2.75     355022     138564    Rd5xd2 g2-g1Q+ Kg4-f3! Kf8-e7
Rd2-e2+ Ke7-d6! Re2-b2 Qg1-d4 Rb2-b8 Kd6-d7
   9      54s   -1.78    1075360     342250    Rd5-f5+ Kf8-g7! Kg4-h3 g2-g1R
Rf5-f2 Rg1-d1 Kh3-g4 Bd2-e3 Rf2-e2 Rd1-d3
  10     118s   -1.77    2615629     792942    Rd5-f5+ Kf8-g7! Kg4-h3 g2-g1R
Rf5-f2 Rg1-d1 Kh3-g4 Kg7-g6 Rf2-g2 Kg6-f6 h2-h4

regards
Rafael B. Andrist



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