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Subject: Re: 10th WCCC

Author: Andrew Williams

Date: 04:09:43 11/15/01

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On November 15, 2001 at 06:48:47, Tony Werten wrote:

>On November 15, 2001 at 06:23:19, Andrew Williams wrote:
>
>>On November 15, 2001 at 05:59:26, Tony Werten wrote:
>>
>>>On November 14, 2001 at 11:15:30, Bruce Moreland wrote:
>>>
>>>>On November 14, 2001 at 10:47:04, Tony Werten wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Hi all,
>>>>>
>>>>>From 5 to 11 July 2002, the 7th Computer Olympiad will be held in Maastricht.
>>>>>Part of the olympiad will be the 10th WCCC.
>>>>>
>>>>>I'll give more information as soon as it's available.
>>>>>
>>>>>cheers,
>>>>>
>>>>>Tony
>>>>
>>>>1) You scheduled this so that travel for Americans will take place on a major
>>>>holiday.  I mean, why not hold this on December 26th?
>>>
>>>July 5th is the opening of the Olympiad. Don't know when chess will start. There
>>>are over 200 countries in the world. Somebody will have an independence day
>>>during the event as well. Last year, in august, you were the only american
>>>operator.( How many were there in London ?) Now in July there is a problem which
>>>would keep all americans away ?
>>>
>>>>
>>>>2) This event has been held in Europe many consecutive times, which is contrary
>>>>to the ICCA charter.
>>>
>>>True. Problem is that there are no sponsors in the US. As you might have
>>>noticed, there hasn't been a major event in the US for over 10 years.
>>>
>>>Given the choice between a sponsored event in Europe, or an unsponsored event in
>>>a country that hasn't been able to organize an event in over 10 years, I guess
>>>the choice was easy.
>>>
>>>Face it, europe seems to be the only place where computerchess lives ( with the
>>>exception of Australia maybe ) so it's the only place where you can find
>>>sponsors. Has there been a national championship outside Europe and Australia
>>>the last 10 years ?
>>>
>>>Irony is that the ICCA charter (alternate championships between europe and
>>>america ) feels to me to, was meant to "protect" europe ie make sure that the
>>>americans would not organise all the events. Now they do not return the favor.
>>>Making sure you are being treated fair is easier than treating fair.
>>>
>>
>>The question is, did ICCA make any attempt to find a North American sponsor?
>>Since the charter says that the championships should alternate between
>>North America and Europe, surely it behoves ICCA to try to achieve that?
>>To be clear, it seems disingenuous to say that "the americans" have not
>>organized something, when it is *ICCA* which is responsible for organizing
>>the event.
>
>Not entirely. The fact that nothing has been organised gives an indication how
>much it lives ie how easy it is to find a sponsor.
>

I'm still unsure what ICCA has done to *try* to make it happen. Are they
waiting for an American sponsor to "appear", or are they taking active steps
to find one? I think that is the key issue here.


>>
>>>Tony
>>>
>>>ps 2003 will be in europe as well.
>>
>>Really? When? Where? How has this been determined?
>
>It was in the last ICGA journal, on the calender. Seems most people have
>overlooked it. Nothing set yet, except that it will be Graz.
>

You're right of course. I only saw that last week, but I'd already forgotten.

Andrew


>Tony
>>
>>Andrew



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