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Subject: Re: 10th WCCC

Author: Peter McKenzie

Date: 10:13:08 11/15/01

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On November 15, 2001 at 05:59:26, Tony Werten wrote:

>On November 14, 2001 at 11:15:30, Bruce Moreland wrote:
>
>>On November 14, 2001 at 10:47:04, Tony Werten wrote:
>>
>>>Hi all,
>>>
>>>From 5 to 11 July 2002, the 7th Computer Olympiad will be held in Maastricht.
>>>Part of the olympiad will be the 10th WCCC.
>>>
>>>I'll give more information as soon as it's available.
>>>
>>>cheers,
>>>
>>>Tony
>>
>>1) You scheduled this so that travel for Americans will take place on a major
>>holiday.  I mean, why not hold this on December 26th?
>
>July 5th is the opening of the Olympiad. Don't know when chess will start. There
>are over 200 countries in the world. Somebody will have an independence day
>during the event as well. Last year, in august, you were the only american
>operator.( How many were there in London ?) Now in July there is a problem which
>would keep all americans away ?
>
>>
>>2) This event has been held in Europe many consecutive times, which is contrary
>>to the ICCA charter.
>
>True. Problem is that there are no sponsors in the US. As you might have
>noticed, there hasn't been a major event in the US for over 10 years.
>
>Given the choice between a sponsored event in Europe, or an unsponsored event in
>a country that hasn't been able to organize an event in over 10 years, I guess
>the choice was easy.
>
>Face it, europe seems to be the only place where computerchess lives ( with the
>exception of Australia maybe ) so it's the only place where you can find
>sponsors. Has there been a national championship outside Europe and Australia
>the last 10 years ?

You seem to overlook the CCT tournaments of which there have been three so far
with a fourth not far away.  These are, in some respect at least, American
tournaments as they run on an American server, with a large number of American
programs (11 out of 32 in the last tournament).

Saying that computer chess is dead outside of Europe and Australia seems
somewhat overstated.

If ICCA isn't going to follow its charter, then perhaps they should just change
the charter?

>
>Irony is that the ICCA charter (alternate championships between europe and
>america ) feels to me to, was meant to "protect" europe ie make sure that the
>americans would not organise all the events. Now they do not return the favor.
>Making sure you are being treated fair is easier than treating fair.
>
>Tony
>
>ps 2003 will be in europe as well.
>
>>
>>The first point may be moot because of the second point.
>>
>>bruce



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