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Subject: Re: One easy mate to solve.

Author: leonid

Date: 15:03:10 11/15/01

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On November 15, 2001 at 12:05:46, Paul wrote:

>On November 15, 2001 at 11:45:39, leonid wrote:
>
>>On November 15, 2001 at 09:44:55, Paul wrote:
>>
>>>On November 15, 2001 at 09:09:08, leonid wrote:
>>>
>>>>[D]2nkN3/2nqN3/2rrbb2/RBqQQqQQ/RBqNPqPQ/2qpqp2/3B4/3K4 w - -
>>>>
>>>>Please indicate your result.
>>>>
>>>>Thanks,
>>>>Leonid.
>>>
>>>Hi Leonid,
>>
>>Hi!
>>
>>>Haha! .. that was a surprise when I saw what Pretz came up with:
>>>
>>>1. Nexc6+ Qcxc6 2. Qgxf6+ Qxf6 3. Qexf6+ Qxf6 4. Qxf6+ Qe7 5. Qxe7+ Nxe7 6.
>>>Nxe6+ Nxe6 7. Ra8+ Nc8 8. Rxc8+ Kxc8 9. Nxd6+ Kd8 10. Ra8+ Qxa8 11. Qxa8+ Qc8
>>>12. Qe8+ Kc7 13. Qexc8+ Kb6 14. Qa5#
>>>
>>>So a mate in 14! I think I must have a bug ...
>>
>>I don't think so. It is mate in 13. Verified it 12 moves deep by brute force to
>>be sure. Easy branching factor. Found mate in 13 by selective. Your, probably,
>>went just one move deper to find its mate. Good result.
>
>Just after I posted my message mine also found a mate in 13 ... I was just too
>quick, but I had to laugh out loud because I know you don't post mates over 13
>moves deep! I thought maybe you had changed your solver.

No still my solver goes only 13 moves deep. Only when I will start rewriting it
that I expect to push it somehow farther. With all wonderful machines that came
and still been coming, next few levels in mate solving will be natural. I expect
that very soon 64 bits machine from Intel and AMD will speed everything around
but will be reduced to dimension of our pocket-book.

>>I see that you have almost no competition here. Your selective look like to be
>>very effective. I still hope that somebody will come with Chess Master solution
>>to see better your and mine position.
>>
>>What was your time here?
>
>07:28 WM13 13 Nexc6+ Qcxc6 Qgxf6+ Qxf6 Qexf6+ Qxf6 Qxf6+ Ne7 Ra8+ Nxa8 Rxa8+
>Qxa8 Qxa8+ Qcc8 Ba5+ Qcc7 Bxc7+ Qxc7 Nxe6+ Rxe6 Qhd5+ Rd6 Qfxd6+ Qxd6 Qxd6#
>
>So no bug, mine just took the long way home first ...

Even when selective find mate in 14 when shortest mate is in 13, result is good.

>>Mine by brute force took 1 hour and 50 min for 12 moves to say "No". Selective
>>in 13, took 9 seconds.
>
>That's pretty fast ... :)

Cheers,
Leonid.

>>Cheers,
>>Leonid.
>
>Paul



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