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Subject: Re: Has anyone kept a record of reported "Techniques" used in DeepBlue?

Author: Slater Wold

Date: 00:28:40 11/16/01

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On November 14, 2001 at 22:43:07, Tom Kerrigan wrote:

>On November 14, 2001 at 19:52:12, Slater Wold wrote:
>
>>I would venture to say that IBM tested that theory.  "Deep Blue" the micro chess
>>program would outsell Chessmaster if it had a strong enough, and pretty enough
>>interface.  And I think everyone on this board would probably try to get a copy.
>>
>>Obviously they felt it either 1.) wasn't worth the work or 2.) realized that
>>without a super computer pushing it, it was weak.
>
>They put a lot of hype into DB, and if DB/PC came out and was "only" as good as
>the top programs, or marginally weaker, it would have been a disappointment to
>some (many?) people.
>
>I expect that IBM is not interested in going into the commercial chess program
>business and they want to keep the mystique of DB alive. Notice that whenever
>they build a new supercomputer, they declare how many thousands of times faster
>than DB it is. (How they get these numbers is beyond me; I assume they're just
>cheating and not factoring in the chess ASICs.) They probably think this is more
>valuable than the relatively insignificant amount of money they would get from
>selling the program commercially.

IBM's new commercial says something about a home PC being able to "..beat a
Russian grandmaster.."  So yea, the marketing aspect will always be alive.

>I believe Hsu bought the rights to the chip design from IBM, and presumably that
>includes the evaluation algorithms. It's a shame that he hasn't redone these in
>software (or made them publicly available, if he has). It would be nice if he
>wrote a paper detailing the thing.

Me too.  Hopefully he doesn't take that to the grave with him.

>-Tom



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