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Subject: Re: ICCA message from rec.games.chess.computer

Author: Ed Schröder

Date: 21:32:10 11/16/01

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On November 16, 2001 at 22:38:10, Bruce Moreland wrote:

>On November 16, 2001 at 19:16:02, Christophe Theron wrote:
>
>>On November 16, 2001 at 18:27:28, Bruce Moreland wrote:
>>
>>>On November 16, 2001 at 16:47:51, Thorsten Czub wrote:
>>>
>>>>> Many of the rules we use today
>>>>>have been in place for more than two decades and although some of them are
>>>>>still applicable we feel the need to re-examine every rule. This task has
>>>>>been prompted to some extent by the fact that almost every ICCA tournament
>>>>>is preceded by a debate over one or more of the rules.
>>>>
>>>>the problem is not some old fashioned rule, but the people behind the rules.
>>>>
>>>>the debates happen because the people behind the rules, behind the events,
>>>>cause the debates.
>>>>
>>>>they do what they want, far from any rule. and they change the rules as they
>>>>want.
>>>>
>>>>the target is to misuse icca events for their own purpose.
>>>
>>>We're going to have a discussion about time controls, number of rounds, clock
>>>adjustment, who can operate, what a microcomputer is, and so on.
>>>
>>>I have been to most of these events, and I'm just as able as you to figure out
>>>that weird things happen at the events.
>>>
>>>I think that you might also agree that a discussion amongst likely participants,
>>>people who have all been there and all seen what happens at the events, is
>>>likely to do a lot of good.
>>>
>>>This is an attempt to formalize some stuff, and regardless of what else goes on,
>>>that can't be bad.
>>>
>>>bruce
>>
>>
>>
>>How can I participate? Is there an URL or group email?
>>
>>
>>
>>    Christophe
>
>Martin Zentner volunteered to let me use his email list server thing.  I was
>going to take care of it yesterday, but then I saw the post from Tony Werten and
>spent a day or so being enraged.  I am calmer now.
>
>Everyone who went to the last tournament will get an email explaining things, or
>they can send me one at brucemo@seanet.com.  In case you are wondering, you
>qualify (even though you weren't there in person).
>
>I will also go to some effort to figure out who has attended during the past few
>years, who is not on the list from 2001 Maastrict, and attempt to include them.
>
>Some of this isn't up to me.  David Levy wanted to conduct the discussion via
>email so that is what I will do, and he wanted the discussion broken down into
>sections, so I've already created a topic list.
>
>If someone thinks that they have a good chance of going to a future event,
>thinks that they have some things to add to this discussion, and thinks that for
>whatever reason I won't think to email them, they should please send me an email
>explaining the situation and I'll try to get them added to the group.
>
>I'm concerned about email volume driving away some participants so I want to be
>careful how this is done.
>
>I may create a parallel discussion in here and excerpt stuff and email it to the
>list.
>
>bruce


It is good to have this discussion. But I hate to do it via an email list
as it is very cluttered. If people are in favor I can set-up a message
board on my server. The message board can be password protected or public.

Ed



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