Author: Tony Werten
Date: 00:15:00 11/17/01
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On November 16, 2001 at 12:56:26, Robert Hyatt wrote: >On November 16, 2001 at 04:00:56, Tony Werten wrote: > >>On November 15, 2001 at 20:33:28, Tom Kerrigan wrote: >> >>>On November 15, 2001 at 05:59:26, Tony Werten wrote: >>> >>>>July 5th is the opening of the Olympiad. Don't know when chess will start. >>>>There >>>>are over 200 countries in the world. Somebody will have an independence day >>>>during the event as well. Last year, in august, you were the only american >>>>operator.( How many were there in London ?) Now in July there is a problem >>>>which >>>>would keep all americans away ? >>> >>>So you make it extremely inconvenient for us to attend and then you point out >> ^^^ >> they >> >>>that our poor attendance is the reason for more inconvenience? >> ^^ >> could be >>>Am I the only >>>person who finds this comment incredibly short-sighted? >> >>Maybe. But could you explain how London or Maastricht was "extremely >>inconvenient" > >It is an 8+ hour flight from anywhere in the US except for major eastern >airports where it is a 7 hour direct flight. It is not cheap. And it is >inconvenient because the _charter_ of the ICCA specifically states that the >WCCC event is to be held every three years, and is to alternate between Europe >and North America. The last time it was held in North America was in Alberta >Canada, in 1989. 1986 was Germany, 1983 was New York City, 1980 was Austria, >1977 was in Toronto Canada, 1974 was in Sweden (I think). Starting in 1992 >every WCCC event has been held outside of North America. for 1989 and earlier >events, you can see the alternation. Since 1989, it has gone overseas period. >Which means for _every_ WCCC event, American programmers can either stay at home >or cough up a huge airline fare + hotel bill. Europeans don't have to make >that choice. Jakarta and Hong Kong are not exactly inside Europe Bob. I agree they are outside North America. If you take they ICCA charter litteraly it should not have been held there, but reading it as alternating between North America and outside North America is something different. Tony > > > >> >>> >>>>True. Problem is that there are no sponsors in the US. As you might have >>>>noticed, there hasn't been a major event in the US for over 10 years. >>> >>>And you admit in a later post that an attempt to find a US sponsor was "not >>>entirely" made. Maybe if somebody had entirely attempted to find a sponsor over >>>the past 10 years, a major event would have been held in the US in the past 10 >>>years. >> >>No I didn't. I said the absence of tournements and the difficulties in finding >>sponsors are not entirly unrelated. >> >>> >>>>Irony is that the ICCA charter (alternate championships between europe and >>>>america ) feels to me to, was meant to "protect" europe ie make sure that the >>>>americans would not organise all the events. Now they do not return the favor. >>>>Making sure you are being treated fair is easier than treating fair. >>> >>>Great, so the "fair" solution to make sure that the US doesn't hold all the >>>events is to not hold any of the events in the US? >> >>Didn't say that either. >> >>Tony >> >>> >>>-Tom
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