Author: Uri Blass
Date: 04:25:10 11/17/01
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On November 17, 2001 at 05:34:23, Ed Schröder wrote: >On November 15, 2001 at 17:52:27, Bruce Moreland wrote: > >>On November 15, 2001 at 14:28:53, Gian-Carlo Pascutto wrote: >> >>>On November 15, 2001 at 13:52:07, Peter McKenzie wrote: >>> >>>>On November 15, 2001 at 13:21:45, Gian-Carlo Pascutto wrote: >>>> >>>>>On November 15, 2001 at 13:13:08, Peter McKenzie wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>You seem to overlook the CCT tournaments of which there have been three so far >>>>>>with a fourth not far away. These are, in some respect at least, American >>>>>>tournaments as they run on an American server, with a large number of American >>>>>>programs (11 out of 32 in the last tournament). >>>>> >>>>>Lets please not compare real-life tournaments to semi-serious internet >>>>>events. >>>> >>>>What makes an internet tournament any less real or serious that any other >>>>tournament? I have participated in both types of tournaments, and they seem >>>>equally real to me. I can assure you that they were taken pretty seriously by >>>>most participants. >>> >>>I do not consider an internet tournament as serious as a real >>>tournament. >>> >>>Also, I was referring to organizing one. >> >>The contention was made that computer chess is dead in America. > >I haven't seen such a statement. > >I think the discussion is about the impotence to find an US sponser. > >My best shot on this: Chess is solved, DB-GK NY 1997. That's the general >impression people have. That is the way the event and its result was >brought under the attention of the masses by the media. I still remember >the grimaces on Kasparov's face after game-6. The whole world saw it too, >the face of somebody in great pain because he lost. The battle between >man and computer was over, the computer has won. Why should any sponsor >put money in old news. > >Ed 1)The event is not human-computer but computer-computer. Even if you suppose that the world champion is weaker than a chess program I do not see a reason to stop to be interested in comp-comp games. Even in 1980 computers were already better than most of the humans and I do not see a reason for most of the humans to care if computers can beat the world champion or can beat only them. 2)The claim that computer beated the world champion could be a good reason not to offer money for Kramnik-Fritz match and it is a fact that kramnik-Fritz match is probably going to happen. Uri
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