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Subject: Re: Could Programmers here working together simulate DB's Knowledge??

Author: Antonio Dieguez

Date: 08:03:39 11/18/01

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On November 18, 2001 at 04:42:33, Otello Gnaramori wrote:

>On November 17, 2001 at 18:58:57, Antonio Dieguez wrote:
>
>>On November 17, 2001 at 18:24:20, Otello Gnaramori wrote:
>>
>>>On November 17, 2001 at 16:02:49, Joshua Lee wrote:
>>>
>>>>Even without the massive hardware and despite how much slower it would be is
>>>>there enough knowledge about how Deep thought/ Blue Played to re-create it?
>>>>How much time and money would it take?
>>>
>>>Hi Joshua,
>>>I think that as already stated somewhere in this forum , the D.B. algorithms ,
>>>evals and so on are pretty standard ones and to be more clear are a bit outdated
>>>since that project was stopped on '97 by the IBM.
>>>The great "plus" of D.B. was and still is the hardware base of calculus with
>>>specialized chips capable to reach an outstanding value of 200
>>>Megapositions/second .
>>>
>>>Kind regards,
>>>Otello.
>>
>>Hi Otello, the eval of DB is standard and even outdated? how you know certainly
>>this?
>>I think it was also stated somewhere in this forum that db eval was very complex
>>and knowing a lot of a lot, just not enough tested. They even had a gm there,
>>and a lot of speed, so why the eval could have been simple? I don't think so.
>
>I didn't tell that was *simple* but just *standard* , the true novelty of it
>derives from the fact that is implemented on hardware so you can add an huge
>bunch of functions to it: I meant that no revolutionary s/w algorithms to
>optimize the search were implemented in D.B.

Okey, we could say that the eval is standard somehow, but not outdated. I was
not speaking about the search.

>The real gain would be to marry the hardware of D.B. to the software algoritms
>of Fritz7 or Chess Tiger IMHO.

Yep, that programs with 200 MNPS should be much more stronger than Deep Blue...



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