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Subject: Re: evaluating KNNN-K

Author: José de Jesús García Ruvalcaba

Date: 02:14:13 11/19/01

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On November 18, 2001 at 09:43:11, Rafael Andrist wrote:

>On November 18, 2001 at 06:03:57, Uri Blass wrote:
>
>>On November 18, 2001 at 05:51:03, Rafael Andrist wrote:
>>
>>>According to the knnnk.tbs file, ~ 85,3% of the possible KNNN-K positions are
>>>won. Is this enough to consider KNNN-K as a general win? Or can at least be said
>>>that there's a high chance for a win?
>>>
>>>Rafael B. Andrist
>>
>>It is enough to consider KNNN vs K as a general win.
>>
>>I doubt if there is a KNNN vs K drawn position when the weaker side cannnot
>>force capturing the knight or getting a stalemate in a few moves.
>>
>>Uri
>
>Thanks. I the meantime I checked some positions in the TB's and saw that even
>the ones where Black has a positional advantage are won for White if there isn't
>a forced capture or a stalemate.
>
>e.g.
>[D]N6N/8/8/4k3/8/8/8/K6N w - - dm 20;
>(Black to move draws because of capturing a knight)
>
>or
>[D]8/8/5k2/8/8/8/NK6/NN6 w - - dm 17;
>
>Because the win is not easy to find by search but not impossible, I think I will
>use an value between +2 and +4 [pawns] for this kind of positions.
>
>Rafael B. Andrist

This win is very easy for a human. For a computer, just try to corner the
opposite king and you will eventually find the mate (it is a lot easier than KBN
vs K).
José.



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