Author: Uri Blass
Date: 11:40:36 11/19/01
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On November 19, 2001 at 12:53:20, Antonio Dieguez wrote: >On November 19, 2001 at 10:00:00, José Carlos wrote: > >>On November 18, 2001 at 18:11:04, Antonio Dieguez wrote: >> >>>On November 18, 2001 at 17:58:07, Jesper Antonsson wrote: >>> >>>>On November 18, 2001 at 16:38:12, Antonio Dieguez wrote: >>>> >>>>>On November 18, 2001 at 12:48:37, Jesper Antonsson wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>On November 18, 2001 at 11:03:39, Antonio Dieguez wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>On November 18, 2001 at 04:42:33, Otello Gnaramori wrote: >>>>>>>>The real gain would be to marry the hardware of D.B. to the software algoritms >>>>>>>>of Fritz7 or Chess Tiger IMHO. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Yep, that programs with 200 MNPS should be much more stronger than Deep Blue... >>>>>> >>>>>>Again, that seems like speculation to me. >>>>> >>>>>Yes it is. >>>>> >>>>>I think I would win a bet here anyway :) >>>> >>>>Well, I doubt it, partly because such a Fritz wouldn't be tuned for the speed, >>>>partly because I doubt that their eval is better. But, if you wait 10 years or >>>>so (hopefully), when you can run at 200 Mnps on a serial machine, and then run >>>>new software on that machine, I think *that* machine would be much stronger than >>>>DB, for several reasons. :-) >>> >>>Deep Blue was tuned for its speed, so that is an advantadge for it, but even >>>that way, I hope programs of today can still run on that machine and that they >>>are tested a lot to convince anyone about any conclusion. Time will tell... let >>>stop speculations! :) >> >> I missed this thread, so maybe someone has already pointed this yet, but I'll >>say it anyway: >> >> 1. This has been discussed here many times. >> 2. You can speculate on the strength of Fritz at 200Mnps under some certain >>circumstances you should state before speculating, but you can't speculate on >>Fritz running on DB hardware. That makes absolutely no sense at all. > >If Fritz 7 running at 200MNPS were stronger than DB (if that is possible to >conclude with DB'logs only) then I would think DB search logic is worse, seems >reasonable, and not uninteresting at all. Significant part of the people here including me believe that Fritz7 on the best hardware of today is stronger than DB at 200M nps per second. I believe that a big majority of the people here agree that Deep Fritz running at 200M nps is stronger than Deeper blue. It is possible to do an opinion poll queation and check it. It proves nothing because the majority can be wrong but we have not enough data to prove who is right and I only can say that the evidence that I found support my opinion(my opinion could be different if I could see impressive moves of Deeper blue from the games that top programs need hours to find). Uri
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