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Subject: Re: Fritz7 knowledge

Author: Vincent Diepeveen

Date: 14:49:48 11/19/01

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On November 19, 2001 at 14:43:38, Ernst Walet wrote:

>This is a nice king safety position from the Rebel site showing (likely) Fritz7
>indeed has more king safety knowledge.
>Futhermore Fritz7 (noMMX) seems to be the latest development of fritz6, as
>surgested by many indeed.

well let's delay opinion upon default fritz7 for some time, but fritz7nommx
looks like a positional dumber version. its minimum improvement is 0.03
of a pawn. So pawn=32 or frans searches with [alfa+3,max(alfa+4,beta)]
Anyway something that makes it positional more silly.

It doesn't look like a preprocessor to me. That's what Frans says about
all fritz versions after fritz6a, so that'll be the reason that it had
to be positional dumber to search that deep.

>Ernst.

>[D]2r1r1k1/pp1nbpp1/4pn1p/q3NN1P/P1pP1B2/2P5/1PQ2PP1/R3R1K1 w - - 0 1
>
>Analysis by Fritz 7:

should use fritz6 here not fritz7 to compare no-mmx with fritz6!


>1.Nxd7 Nxd7
>  =  (-0.16)   Depth: 6/23   00:00:00  81kN
>1.Nxd7 Nxd7
>  =  (-0.22)   Depth: 7/21   00:00:00  121kN
>1.Nxd7 Nxd7 2.Rxe6 fxe6 3.Nxh6+ gxh6 4.Qg6+ Kh8 5.Qxh6+ Kg8 6.Qg6+ Kh8 7.Qh6+
>Kg8 8.Qg6+
>  =  (0.00)   Depth: 8/20   00:00:01  309kN
>1.Nxd7 Nxd7 2.Rxe6 fxe6 3.Nxh6+ gxh6 4.Qg6+ Kh8 5.Qxh6+ Kg8 6.Qg6+ Kh8 7.Qh6+
>Kg8 8.Qg6+
>  =  (0.00)   Depth: 9/25   00:00:03  787kN
>1.Nxd7 Nxd7 2.Rxe6 fxe6 3.Nxh6+ gxh6 4.Qg6+ Kh8 5.Qxh6+ Kg8 6.Qg6+ Kh8 7.Qh6+
>Kg8 8.Qg6+
>  =  (0.00)   Depth: 10/25   00:00:06  1536kN
>1.Nxd7 Nxd7 2.Rxe6 fxe6 3.Nxh6+ gxh6 4.Qg6+ Kh8 5.Qxh6+ Kg8 6.Qg6+ Kh8 7.Qh6+
>Kg8 8.Qg6+
>  =  (0.00)   Depth: 11/25   00:00:15  4051kN
>1.Nxd7 Nxd7 2.Rxe6 fxe6 3.Nxh6+ gxh6 4.Qg6+ Kh8 5.Qxh6+ Kg8 6.Qg6+ Kh8 7.Qh6+
>Kg8 8.Qg6+
>  =  (0.00)   Depth: 12/30   00:00:34  9217kN
>1.Nxd7 Nxd7 2.Rxe6 fxe6 3.Nxh6+ gxh6 4.Qg6+ Kh8 5.Qxh6+ Kg8 6.Qg6+ Kh8 7.Qh6+
>Kg8 8.Qg6+
>  =  (0.00)   Depth: 13/31   00:01:24  22844kN
>1.Nxd7 Nxd7 2.Rxe6 fxe6 3.Nxh6+ gxh6 4.Qg6+ Kh8 5.Qxh6+ Kg8 6.Qg6+ Kh8 7.Qh6+
>Kg8 8.Qg6+
>  =  (0.00)   Depth: 14/33   00:03:04  50519kN
>1.Nxg7!
>  =  (-0.03)   Depth: 14/34   00:03:59  65315kN
>1.Nxg7! Kxg7 2.Bxh6+ Kg8 3.Re3 Nxe5 4.dxe5 Nxh5 5.Qe4 Ng7 6.Bxg7 Kxg7 7.Rg3+ Kf8
>  =  (0.00)   Depth: 14/35   00:04:31  74123kN
>1.Nxg7!
>  ²  (0.29)   Depth: 15/36   00:08:39  141614kN
>1.Nxg7! Kxg7 2.Bxh6+ Kg8 3.Re3 Nxe5 4.dxe5 Nxh5 5.Qe4 f5 6.exf6 Bxf6 7.Qg6+ Kh8
>  ²  (0.32)   Depth: 15/40   00:10:10  166620kN
>
>(PIII-500E, 512MB hash, 3, 4 and 5 piece EGTB's 19.11.2001)
>
>
>Analysis by Fritz 7 (No MMX):

>1.Nxe7+--
>  =  (0.06)   Depth: 1/5   00:00:00
>1.Nxe7+--
>  =  (0.06)   Depth: 1/5   00:00:00
>1.Nxe7+ Rxe7 2.Qe2 Nxe5 3.Bxe5
>  =  (0.00)   Depth: 2/13   00:00:00
>1.Nxe7+ Rxe7 2.Qe2 Nxe5 3.Bxe5
>  =  (0.00)   Depth: 3/13   00:00:00  1kN
>1.Nxe7+ Rxe7 2.Qe2 Nxe5 3.Bxe5 Nd5
>  =  (-0.06)   Depth: 4/12   00:00:00  2kN
>1.Nxe7+ Rxe7 2.Qe2 Nd5 3.Qg4 Nxf4 4.Qxf4 Nxe5 5.Qxe5
>  =  (-0.09)   Depth: 5/17   00:00:00  20kN
>1.Nxd7!
>  =  (-0.06)   Depth: 5/18   00:00:00  27kN
>1.Nxd7 Nxd7 2.Nxe7+ Rxe7 3.Bd6 Ree8 4.Qe2 Qg5
>  =  (-0.09)   Depth: 6/18   00:00:00  40kN
>1.Nxd7 Nxd7 2.Nxe7+ Rxe7 3.Qe2 Rd8 4.Qxc4 Qxh5 5.Rad1
>  =  (-0.06)   Depth: 7/21   00:00:00  121kN
>1.Nxd7 Nxd7 2.Nxe7+ Rxe7 3.Qe2 Ree8 4.Qf3 Qb6 5.Re2 Rcd8
>  =  (-0.09)   Depth: 8/21   00:00:00  249kN
>1.Nxd7 Nxd7 2.Nxe7+ Rxe7 3.Qe2 Rc6 4.Be5 f6 5.Bf4 e5
>  =  (-0.03)   Depth: 9/24   00:00:02  771kN
>1.Nxd7 Nxd7 2.Nxe7+ Rxe7 3.Qe2 Rc6 4.Be5 f6 5.Bf4 e5
>  =  (-0.06)   Depth: 10/27   00:00:04  1665kN
>1.Nxd7 Nxd7 2.Nxe7+ Rxe7 3.Qe2 Ree8 4.Qf3 b6 5.Bd6 Rcd8
>  =  (-0.06)   Depth: 11/29   00:00:11  4820kN
>1.Nxd7 Nxd7 2.Nxe7+ Rxe7 3.Be5 Rd8 4.b4 cxb3 5.Qxb3 Nxe5
>  =  (-0.09)   Depth: 12/29   00:00:26  10942kN
>1.Nxe7+!
>  =  (-0.06)   Depth: 12/30   00:00:27  11335kN
>1.Nxe7+ Rxe7 2.Qe2 Nd5 3.Qf3 N7b6 4.Qg3 Nxf4 5.Qxf4 Nxa4
>  =  (-0.22)   Depth: 13/34   00:01:34  38813kN
>1.Nxd7!
>  =  (-0.19)   Depth: 13/34   00:01:36  39848kN
>1.Nxd7! Nxd7 2.Nxe7+ Rxe7 3.Be5 Rd8 4.b4 cxb3 5.Qxb3 Nxe5
>  =  (-0.09)   Depth: 13/37   00:01:58  49146kN
>1.Nxd7 Nxd7 2.Nxe7+ Rxe7 3.Be5 Rd8 4.b4 cxb3 5.Qxb3 Nxe5
>  =  (-0.09)   Depth: 14/33   00:03:07  78858kN
>1.Nxd7 Nxd7 2.Nxe7+ Rxe7 3.Qe2 Qd5 4.Bh2 Rce8 5.Rad1 e5
>  =  (-0.12)   Depth: 15/37   00:07:44  197970kN
>1.Nxd7 Nxd7 2.Nxe7+ Rxe7 3.Qe2 Qd5 4.Be5 Nxe5 5.Qxe5 Qd8
>  =  (-0.09)   Depth: 16/41   00:18:32  476242kN
>1.Nxg7!
>  =  (-0.06)   Depth: 16/41   00:34:12  883395kN
>1.Nxg7! Kxg7 2.Bxh6+ Kg8 3.Re3 Nxe5 4.dxe5 Nxh5 5.Qe4 Bf8
>  ²  (0.66)   Depth: 16/41   00:38:39  998394kN
>
>(PIII-500E, 512MB hash, 3, 4 and 5 piece EGTB's 19.11.2001)
>
>
>Analysis by Fritz 6:
>
>1.Nxe7+--
>  =  (0.03)   Depth: 1/5   00:00:00
>1.Nxe7+--
>  =  (0.03)   Depth: 1/5   00:00:00
>1.Nxe7+ Rxe7 2.Qe2 Nxe5 3.Bxe5
>  =  (-0.03)   Depth: 2/13   00:00:00
>1.Nxe7+ Rxe7 2.Qe2 Nxe5 3.Bxe5
>  =  (-0.03)   Depth: 3/13   00:00:00  1kN
>1.Nxe7+ Rxe7 2.Qe2 Nxe5 3.Bxe5 Nd5
>  =  (-0.09)   Depth: 4/15   00:00:00  2kN
>1.Nxe7+ Rxe7 2.Qe2 Nd5 3.Qg4 Nxf4 4.Qxf4 Nxe5 5.Qxe5
>  =  (-0.09)   Depth: 5/17   00:00:00  19kN
>1.Nxe7+ Rxe7 2.Qe2 Nd5 3.Bh2 Nxe5 4.Bxe5 Rd7
>  =  (-0.25)   Depth: 6/17   00:00:00  48kN
>1.Nxd7!
>  =  (-0.22)   Depth: 6/19   00:00:00  67kN
>1.Nxd7! Nxd7 2.Nxe7+ Rxe7 3.Qe2 Qd5
>  =  (-0.12)   Depth: 6/19   00:00:00  74kN
>1.Nxd7 Nxd7 2.Nxe7+ Rxe7 3.Qe2 Rd8 4.Bd6 Ree8 5.Qxc4 Qxh5
>  =  (-0.09)   Depth: 7/21   00:00:00  133kN
>1.Nxd7 Nxd7 2.Nxe7+ Rxe7 3.Qe2 Ree8 4.Qf3 Qb6 5.Re2 Rcd8
>  =  (-0.12)   Depth: 8/23   00:00:00  268kN
>1.Nxd7 Nxd7 2.Nxe7+ Rxe7 3.Qe2 Rc6 4.Be5 f6 5.Bf4 e5
>  =  (-0.06)   Depth: 9/25   00:00:02  820kN
>1.Nxd7 Nxd7 2.Nxe7+ Rxe7 3.Qe2 Rc6 4.Be5 f6 5.Bf4 e5
>  =  (-0.09)   Depth: 10/25   00:00:04  1752kN
>1.Nxe7+!
>  =  (-0.06)   Depth: 10/25   00:00:04  1891kN
>1.Nxe7+ Rxe7 2.Qe2 Nd5 3.Bh2 N7b6 4.Bg3 Rec7 5.Nf3 Rd7
>  =  (-0.19)   Depth: 11/29   00:00:16  6158kN
>1.Nxd7!
>  =  (0.00)   Depth: 11/29   00:00:16  6371kN
>1.Nxd7! Nxd7 2.Nxe7+ Rxe7 3.Qe2 Rc6 4.Be5 f6 5.Bf4 e5
>  =  (-0.06)   Depth: 11/30   00:00:18  7084kN
>1.Nxd7 Nxd7 2.Nxe7+ Rxe7 3.Qe2 Rc6 4.Qf3 e5 5.dxe5 Nxe5
>  =  (-0.06)   Depth: 12/30   00:00:28  11466kN
>1.Nxd7 Nxd7 2.Nxe7+ Rxe7 3.Qe2 Rc6 4.Qf3 Qf5 5.a5 Qb5
>  =  (-0.09)   Depth: 13/31   00:01:09  28928kN
>1.Nxd7 Nxd7 2.Nxe7+ Rxe7 3.Qe2 Qd5 4.a5 Rc6 5.Be5 Ra6
>  =  (-0.03)   Depth: 14/33   00:02:47  70379kN
>1.Nxd7 Nxd7 2.Nxe7+ Rxe7 3.Qe2 Qd5 4.Be5 Qc6 5.Qg4 Nxe5
>  =  (-0.09)   Depth: 15/37   00:06:35  169217kN
>1.Nxd7 Nxd7 2.Nxe7+ Rxe7 3.Qe2 Qd5 4.Be5 Qc6 5.Qg4 Nxe5
>  =  (-0.09)   Depth: 16/37   00:19:00  485260kN
>1.Nxg7!
>  =  (-0.06)   Depth: 16/40   00:38:48  999867kN
>1.Nxg7! Kxg7 2.Bxh6+ Kg8 3.Re3 Nxe5 4.dxe5 Nxh5 5.Qe4 Bf8
>  ±  (0.75)   Depth: 16/42   00:42:57  1106271kN
>
>(PIII-500E, 512MB hash, 3, 4 and 5 piece EGTB's 19.11.2001)



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