Author: Albert Silver
Date: 18:41:43 11/19/01
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On November 19, 2001 at 09:58:42, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>On November 17, 2001 at 04:14:38, Tony Werten wrote:
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>>On November 15, 2001 at 17:52:27, Bruce Moreland wrote:
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>>>On November 15, 2001 at 14:28:53, Gian-Carlo Pascutto wrote:
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>>>>On November 15, 2001 at 13:52:07, Peter McKenzie wrote:
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>>>>>On November 15, 2001 at 13:21:45, Gian-Carlo Pascutto wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On November 15, 2001 at 13:13:08, Peter McKenzie wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>You seem to overlook the CCT tournaments of which there have been three so far
>>>>>>>with a fourth not far away. These are, in some respect at least, American
>>>>>>>tournaments as they run on an American server, with a large number of American
>>>>>>>programs (11 out of 32 in the last tournament).
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Lets please not compare real-life tournaments to semi-serious internet
>>>>>>events.
>>>>>
>>>>>What makes an internet tournament any less real or serious that any other
>>>>>tournament? I have participated in both types of tournaments, and they seem
>>>>>equally real to me. I can assure you that they were taken pretty seriously by
>>>>>most participants.
>>>>
>>>>I do not consider an internet tournament as serious as a real
>>>>tournament.
>>>>
>>>>Also, I was referring to organizing one.
>>>
>>>The contention was made that computer chess is dead in America.
>>
>>I'll give it a last try, but I guess it'll be in vain.
>>
>>I didn't say computerchess was dead in America.
>>I said:
>>>>Face it, europe seems to be the only place where computerchess lives ( with the
>>>>exception of Australia maybe )
>>
>>Quite a difference and you know it. You conveniently removed all subtility from
>>my words and then put them in my mouth.
>>
>>Tony
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>K... A says that XXX is the _only_ place where computer chess lives. B
>says that computer chess is dead everywhere but in XXX. Are the two statements
>different? In words, yes. They don't use the same words. But in meaning?
>they are _identical_.
>
>I think that if you look _carefully_ you will find that chess is _not_
>"missing in action" in North America. Or should we just count programs,
>continent by continent, to see?
Yes, even here in Brazil, where it is true I don't know of many into
computerchess per se, I get a lot of feedback on programs in general, and I can
say a lot of players use them. All competing players are exposed to them of
course, either through contacts or at the very events where Chess Assistant and
Chessbase are used to make the bulletins.
Albert
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>>>Peter states
>>>that we had 1/3 American entries in the last online tournament.
>>>
>>>That does not indicate that computer chess is dead in America.
>>>
>>>The distances are large here. If we were all located within an hour or two of
>>>each other, by car, we would probably have more events. As it stands, an
>>>American championship or some such would necessarily involve plane tickets.
>>>
>>>I could drive for three days solid and not make it to Bob's house, for instance.
>>>
>>>bruce
>>>
>>>>
>>>>--
>>>>GCP
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