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Subject: Re: Fritz Knowledge ?

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 03:32:01 11/20/01

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On November 19, 2001 at 18:33:59, Gian-Carlo Pascutto wrote:

>On November 19, 2001 at 18:27:14, Dann Corbit wrote:
>
>>On November 19, 2001 at 16:31:16, Chessfun wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>This position came about in a game where Fritz 7 clearly
>>>winning played a move which seems to lose immediately,
>>>although he still don't see he is lost for a few moves.
>>>
>>>35...Rd5 and lost.
>>>
>>>Seems all Fritz versions will play 35....Rd5.
>>>
>>>[D]8/1p3pk1/p1p3pp/2P1r3/1P1R4/P6P/5K1P/8 b - b3 0 35
>>
>>Beowulf falls for the same thing, even thinking the move to be up a full bishop.
>
>Funny...Sjeng gets a fail low at 5 seconds and switches away in 10.
>
>If I play it out, I get +0.8 in a second or 2 (for white).

I suspect that the reason that you are fast in getting a positive score for
white after 35...Rd5 is the same reason that you are going to get also a
positive score in the following position in the first plies and it can cause you
problems in different positions.

[D]8/5p2/2p2kpp/1p6/P4p2/7P/2K4P/8 w - - 0 5

Crafty gets positive score for white in the first plies of that position.

I suspect that Fritz is more careful in evaluating passed pawns when the other
side also has a lot of passed pawns and I am not sure if it is a good idea or a
bad idea.

Deep Fritz can see +5.50 at depth 1 in the following position
[D]8/8/5kpp/8/P7/7P/5K1P/8 w - - 0 5

If I change the square of the white pawn to b4 it can see only +1.16 so it seems
that it gives a significant bonus of more than 4 pawns for unstoppable passed
pawn if the opponent has no passed pawn.


Uri



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