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Subject: Re: Position-Based

Author: Peter Fendrich

Date: 15:02:14 06/02/98

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On June 02, 1998 at 17:29:21, Stuart Cracraft wrote:

>On June 02, 1998 at 15:24:35, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>
>>my position file has 65536 entries, and is "wrap-around" once it fills
>>up in a FIFO ring buffer.  However, I *never* let it fill up, because I
>>delete it regularly.
>>
>
>Why do you delete it regularly? Seems to me there's valuable
>"experience"
>in that file. Why not add a field "frequency" that shows how frequently
>in
>real games the given position has been visited. Then, when the file
>fills
>up and becomes a burden to the regular hash table, clean out the ones
>with
>frequency=some_low_number?
>
>>
>>this sort of learning was added so that if someone finds a quick exit
>>out
>>of book, book learning won't work.  This at least gives it a chance to
>>not
>>play into the same lost game over and over.  I only learn positions from
>>the first 10 non-book moves before turning it off...
>
>Someone forcing the program to play the same lost game over and over
>whenever the same opening moves are played is a significant problem
>especially when having a program play on the Internet Chess Server or
>in a computer vs. computer tournament. I've seen it a few times and am
>sure you've seen it quite a bit. Kinda negates the value of the server
>for testing research if some joe knows how to get free rating points
>without really beating the program each time.
>
>--Stuart

The "book learning" prevents a program from losing the same game over
and over.
The "position-based" learning may become irrellevant after a while. The
program gets more knowledge built in by development and the scores
stored as permanent aren't permanent any more...

//Peter



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