Author: Chessfun
Date: 19:48:50 11/24/01
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On November 24, 2001 at 19:51:22, Mogens Larsen wrote: >On November 24, 2001 at 18:59:01, Chessfun wrote: > >>Since this was the second reference to my rating lists me you made in this >>thread, I'll give you the same answer I gave you already when you posted the >>same statement in reply to my lightning list. > >It was used as an example of how to expand the uselessness of the Chessbits list >even more and nothing else. > >>The Fritz versions Old, 6a, 6b and 6c all perform differently. Whether it >>dissappoints you to see them isn't relevant. If you had ever bothered to test >>them in any test suite you choose you'd see they are all different. > >Actually, I was disappointed not to see them in the Chessbits list, since almost >everything else imaginable was already present. It had nothing to do with your >attempts. > >As for the various Fritz versions. Whether they perform differently isn't really >relevant. There is at most two different Fritz 6 versions and they are Fritz 6 >Old and the latest service pack version. The a, b and c separation is an >invention. I thought that post might tempt you out of your shell Mogens :-), you haven't posted much of late?. Actually, it's rather difficult to separate the results of the versions and I only did so, specifically in my lightning lists. Although I do have the ability to recalibrate based on the Fritz version numbers for my normal rating list and have been considering doing it. As we all know the SSDF assuming they have installed all the patches as times went by, must have used a, b and c to produce the results called 6a. If they haven't and are in fact still using the "a" version then maybe they should test the "c" version seperately as my own testing indicates this is stronger. All that aside, whether we like it or not the versions of Fritz 6 while maybe not being major revisions are different. They produce different results in testsuites and in engine matches. This IMO seems somewhat like Crafty where different versions are regularly coming out with minor revision. >>If Chessbase had choose to sell them and call them 7, 8 and 9 then certainly >>everyone else would also have been testing them. > >Apart from the fact that a few customers would feel terribly cheated, then it's >a nonargument because it doesn't correspond with reality. I'm not so sure that customers would have felt cheated as my results indicate that the latest version c is the strongest. And were it released last year as Fritz 7 it would have produced better results than the "a" and "b" versions. >>I removed CMFuns results from my own lists as for my own purposes I simply want >>a list of available programs that don't require modifications. That is the case >>with all the Fritz versions. > >Fair enough. Even though it results in an unfair and uninteresting list IMHO. I don't see why or how removing the results of CMFun makes the list either unfair or uninteresting?, but I'm sure you'll elaborate.;-) Sarah.
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