Author: Uri Blass
Date: 02:33:45 11/26/01
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On November 26, 2001 at 05:30:34, Uri Blass wrote: >On November 25, 2001 at 15:14:16, Victor Fernandez wrote: > >>On November 25, 2001 at 13:37:09, Mike S. wrote: >> >>>The number of types of positions and ideas chess programs don't handle well, is >>>shrinking rapidly IMO. Do you have examples? >> >>Hi Mike ! >> >>Yes, an example: an ending with few pieces . >> >>Kotov-Botvinnik >> >>8/8/4b1p1/2Bp3p/5P1P/1pK1Pk2/8/8 b - - 0 1 >> >>The correct move is ...g5 !!! Few programs play this. >> >>Regards, >> >> Victor > >yace after learning > >New position >[D]8/8/4b1p1/2Bp3p/5P1P/1pK1Pk2/8/8 b - - 0 1 > >Analysis by Yace 0.99.56: > >1...b2 2.Kxb2 > = (0.05) Depth: 1 00:00:00 >1...g5 2.fxg5 d4+ 3.exd4 Kg3 4.g6 Kxh4 5.Be7+ Kg3 6.Bd6+ Kg2 7.Be7 Kh3 8.Kb2 Kg4 >9.g7 h4 10.d5 Bxd5 11.Bb4 > -+ (-2.05) Depth: 1 00:00:00 >1...g5 2.fxg5 d4+ 3.exd4 Kg3 4.g6 Kxh4 5.Be7+ Kg3 6.Bd6+ Kg2 7.Be7 Kh3 8.Kb2 Kg4 >9.g7 h4 10.d5 Bxd5 11.Bb4 > -+ (-2.05) Depth: 2 00:00:00 >1...g5 2.fxg5 d4+ 3.exd4 Kg3 4.g6 Kxh4 5.Be7+ Kg3 6.Bd6+ Kg2 7.Be7 Kh3 8.Kb2 Kg4 >9.g7 h4 10.d5 Bxd5 11.Bb4 > -+ (-2.05) Depth: 3 00:00:00 >1...g5 2.fxg5 d4+ 3.exd4 Kg3 4.g6 Kxh4 5.Be7+ Kg3 6.Bd6+ Kg2 7.Be7 Kh3 8.Kb2 Kg4 >9.g7 h4 10.d5 Bxd5 11.Bb4 > -+ (-2.05) Depth: 4 00:00:00 >1...g5 2.fxg5 d4+ 3.exd4 Kg3 4.g6 Kxh4 5.Be7+ Kg3 6.Bd6+ Kg2 7.Be7 Kh3 8.Kb2 Kg4 >9.g7 h4 10.d5 Bxd5 11.Bb4 > -+ (-2.05) Depth: 5 00:00:00 >1...g5 2.fxg5 d4+ 3.exd4 Kg3 4.g6 Kxh4 5.Be7+ Kg3 6.Bd6+ Kg2 7.Be7 Kh3 8.Kb2 Kg4 >9.g7 h4 10.d5 Bxd5 11.Bb4 > -+ (-2.05) Depth: 6 00:00:00 2kN >1...g5 2.fxg5 d4+ 3.exd4 Kg3 4.g6 Kxh4 5.Be7+ Kg3 6.Bd6+ Kg2 7.Be7 Kh3 8.Kb2 Kg4 >9.g7 h4 10.d5 Bxd5 11.Bb4 > -+ (-2.05) Depth: 7 00:00:00 4kN >1...g5 2.fxg5 d4+ 3.exd4 Kg3 4.g6 Kxh4 5.Be7+ Kg3 6.Bd6+ Kg2 7.Be7 Kh3 8.Kb2 Kg4 >9.g7 h4 10.d5 Bxd5 11.Bb4 > -+ (-2.05) Depth: 8 00:00:00 10kN >1...g5 2.fxg5 d4+ 3.exd4 Kg3 4.g6 Kxh4 5.Be7+ Kg3 6.Bd6+ Kg2 7.Be7 Kh3 8.Kb2 Kg4 >9.g7 h4 10.d5 Bxd5 11.Bb4 > -+ (-2.05) Depth: 9 00:00:00 24kN >1...g5 2.fxg5 d4+ 3.exd4 Kg3 4.g6 Kxh4 5.Be7+ Kg3 6.Bd6+ Kg2 7.Be7 Kh3 8.Kb2 Kg4 >9.g7 h4 10.d5 Bxd5 11.Bb4 > -+ (-2.05) Depth: 10 00:00:00 49kN >1...g5 2.fxg5 d4+ 3.exd4 Kg3 4.g6 Kxh4 5.Be7+ Kg3 6.Bd6+ Kg2 7.Be7 Kh3 8.Kb2 Kg4 >9.g7 h4 10.d5 Bxd5 11.Bb4 > -+ (-2.05) Depth: 11 00:00:00 99kN >1...g5 2.fxg5 d4+ 3.exd4 Kg3 4.g6 Kxh4 5.Be7+ Kg3 6.Bd6+ Kg2 7.Be7 Kh3 8.Kb2 Kg4 >9.g7 h4 10.d5 Bxd5 11.Bb4 > -+ (-2.05) Depth: 12 00:00:00 201kN >1...g5 2.fxg5 d4+ 3.exd4 Kg3 4.g6 Kxh4 5.Be7+ Kg3 6.Bd6+ Kg2 7.Be7 Kh3 8.Kb2 Kg4 >9.g7 h4 10.d5 Bxd5 11.Bb4 > -+ (-2.05) Depth: 13 00:00:00 421kN >1...g5 2.fxg5 d4+ 3.exd4 Kg3 4.g6 Kxh4 5.Be7+ Kg3 6.Bd6+ Kg2 7.Be7 Kh3 8.Kb2 Kg4 >9.g7 h4 10.d5 Bxd5 11.Bb4 > -+ (-2.05) Depth: 14 00:00:01 965kN >1...g5 2.fxg5 d4+ 3.exd4 Kg3 4.g6 Kxh4 5.Be7+ Kg3 6.Bd6+ Kg2 7.Be7 Kh3 8.Kb2 Kg4 >9.g7 h4 10.d5 Bxd5 11.Bb4 > -+ (-2.05) Depth: 15 00:00:03 1974kN > >(Blass, Tel-aviv 26.11.2001) >It may be interesting to give the top programs of today many hours to analyze in >order to find g5 or d4+(it is only tactics and I expect the top programs of >today to find g5 or d4+ faster). I mean faster than old programs and it is going to refute the claim that there is no improvement in software. Maybe someone can try to give the new programs and the old programs hours to analyze in order to check my theory. Uri > >It may be also interesting if yace with only material evaluation and learning >can prove at least 2 pawns advantage by 1...g5(I believe that it can) > >Uri
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