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Subject: Re: Intelligent software, please

Author: Otello Gnaramori

Date: 02:10:57 11/27/01

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On November 26, 2001 at 18:09:04, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:

>On November 25, 2001 at 10:45:14, Victor Fernandez wrote:
>
>>1994
>>
>>WChess (Pentium 90 !) makes a 2895 !!! performance rating
>>against Grandmasters at Fifth Harvard Cup.
>
>This shows how many customers only kick on one result against GMs
>what you do against computers it all doesn't matter. customers
>want to hear whatever.
>
>>2001
>>Chess Tiger 14 866 Mhz, 256 Mb RAM, performance rating
>>2788 at Republica Argentina. (It is only an example )
>
>>7 years of difference in development of algorithms, and a
>>increase of 776 Mhz they are translated in -107 Elo ?.
>
>>What Elo would obtain against GM's any current Top chessprogram
>>in a P90 with 64 Mb RAM ?.
>
>the programs get annihilated because GMs are now used to play 1+ Ghz
>machines. If they face something 40 times slower then, then they
>are going to rock. So the GMs kick the software silly.

In a recent event Deep Fritz wasn't kicked silly ,if I remember well, against a
famous GM...and if I'm correct also in Argentina were present few GMs and IMs.

 however
>you can't afford strong GMs so you get some 'weak' gms. these guys
>are playing real scared already against a guy called Diepeveen (FM) 2312.
>
>So in short if they already play like scared pigs against me (and
>allowing me sometimes because of this to escape to draw against them)
>then how you think they do tactical against the computer?
>
>Right. some games they will lose because of tactical shots!
>
>It's easy to get close to 50% with a program against a 2500 GM.
>
>It's impossible to beat him though.
>
>A good example of a top program at slow hardware (133Mhz or something)
>is pocket shredder. sold under fritz. How much chance you give
>pocket fritz at a MIPS 133Mhz against me at 40 in 2 level?
>
>I give it 0% chance to win a match.
>
>
>>My question is , when they will stop to cut code the programmers
>>(with honorable exceptions) and to begin to develop programs a
>>bit intelligent, or we will have to wait to have at home hardware
>>with 256 processors and 10 TB RAM to be able to see to play chess ?.
>>
>>Thanks,
>>
>>An customer



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