Author: Komputer Korner
Date: 08:19:38 06/04/98
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On June 04, 1998 at 03:27:29, Ed Schröder wrote: >>Posted by Komputer Korner on June 04, 1998 at 02:03:50: > >>With the perhaps imminent demise of the SSDF, See the below piece of >>news from Bert Seifriz at GambitSoft: > >>"Ed Schröder makes his own list now, Millennium GmbH, a chess firm >>here, publish also their own lists. Without saying anything about >>their evaluations, all the people who criticize the Swedish list >>should know that the Swedes might give up soon. > >>In a letter to us they promised to carry on until the end of this year, > >I can tell you that this information has nothing to do with the >current problems. I received the above information on February 9, so >before the last SSDF list came out, so before all the trouble started. > >>but afterwards the Swedish list might die which would be a pity! - 6/2/98" > > > >>I am announcing an organization called CCTF which would stand for >>Computer Chess Testing Foundation. > >I applaud to your initiative. Hope you can make it a success. > > >>We could start off testing and rating the winboard engines and then >>the >>Fritz engines (Fritz, Hiarcs, Junior, and Doctor) and the commercial >>programs and who knows what else in >>the future? As for the commercial programs I propose to allow only >>those programs to be tested that have publicly available autotesters. >>I applaud Ed Schroder's efforts on this behalf, but I feel that an >>independent organization is needed or else there will be suspicion in >>the end about Ed's methods. I believe Ed is a truly honorable man but >>the other programmers won't stand for an "Independent" testing >>organization being controlled by a single competitor (Ed himself). > >I like to answer this with the official text from my home page: > > [ begin quote] > > The very first thing that will be improved is to move the CCL > list to an independent company, institution or organization > to ensure the creditability AND a continuation for years of > this computer-computer competition. > > At the moment the CCL competition is running in the office of > the Schroder BV, producer of Rebel. It's our first goal with > the highest priority to move the CCL competition to an independent > organization free from any commercial bindings with any of the > involved participants. > > We will take 6 months for this process. If we do not manage in > these 6 months to move the CCL list to an independent organization > the CCL list will stop to exist. > > Q: Why is Schröder BV doing this and not somebody else? > > A: The last years too many interesting computer chess events > disappeared. We believe this is not good for our sport (hobby). > Whenever we talk about new ideas with possible candidates we > have experienced that in the end nothing is done due to lack of > time and/or financials. Therefore we started this initiative of > our own. This will make it easier for serious candidates to jump > on a running train. > > [ end quote ] > >Like to add that I am currently talking to 3 serious candidates to take >over CCL. > >- Ed - > > >>There are at least 2 others doing extensive testing with a number of >>programs and one of them is the famous SHEP. Perhaps he would >>graciously accept to join CCTF and be on the board of directors of >>CCTF. And of course Enrique Irazoqui just has to say when and he will >>be on the board (and in all probability chairman if he wants the >>post). If anybody can come up with a constitution and if anybody wants >>to be statistician please respond to this post. For commercial >>programs testers need 2 exact computers. The beauty of testing in >>Winboard and the Fritz GUI however is that you only need 1 computer >>with of course pondering turned off. And of course testing is all >>automatic so once you get setup there isn't much work. Might as well >>have your computers run overnight when they have nothing to do. The idea >>is to have MAC programs also tested and the rating link to this would be >>Hiarcs 6 Mac version. >> >>-- >>-- >>Komputer Korner >>The inkompetent komputer >> >>To send email take the 1 out of my address. My email address is >>korner1@netcom.ca but take the 1 out before sending the email. I too do not want to see the SSDF die, but if it does, I would think that the CCTF would move in to take it's place as regards commercial program testing. Perhaps Ed's contacts and/or the CCL can amalgamate with the CCTF to have a truly worldwide testing organization independent of any influence. If Eric Hallsworth's group is interested and SHEP as well, perhaps a cyber meeting of all concerned individuals could be arranged.
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