Author: Amir Ban
Date: 08:49:33 06/04/98
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On June 04, 1998 at 10:35:46, blass uri wrote:
>
>On June 04, 1998 at 09:59:21, Guido Schimmels wrote:
>
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>>On June 04, 1998 at 07:49:40, blass uri wrote:
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>>>
>>>On June 04, 1998 at 05:56:17, Ulrich Tuerke wrote:
>>>
>>>>On June 04, 1998 at 05:33:00, blass uri wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>humans can play between chess programs by hand and mouse
>>>>>
>>>>>I understand that it is hard to do a program that does the same
>>>>>thing the hand does.
>>>>>
>>>>>what is the main problem about it
>>>>>to do a program that moves the mouse or
>>>>>to do a program that reads the screen and understands the move
>>>>>that was done.
>>>>
>>>>What are you trying to say ????
>>>
>>>what is not clear?
>>>my idea is that if there was a small robot that does the same action
>>>humans can do then there was no problem with testing fritz5.
>>>
>>>I know nothing about doing robots so I ask if someone knows
>>
>>You don't need a robot or any kind of hardware device for that !
>>In fact Donninger's original autoplayer - plenty of years ago -
>>worked with no kind of interface provided by the programs it could
>>handle.
>>Donninger published an article describing how he has done it.
>>Reading that stuff made my neck-hairs stand up, I can tell you -
>>what a hacking adventure ! He had to figure out a bunch of
>>"dirty tricks" for every single program, totally different code each - a
>>mess !
>>You'll find nobody who will do this for Fritz5 now, Donninger
>>as the last man, believe me.
>>Chessbase decided to be spoilers, sadly :-{
>>
>>- Guido
>
>you say "He had to figure out a bunch of "dirty tricks" for every single
>program"
>by doing a small robot we solve the problem for every program
>unless the program looks if there is a robot near it
>and if there is it refuses to play.
>
>Uri
Uri,
How will your robot know how to operate the program and understand the
display ? Will it read the user manual, study the online help, or will
it just rely on its natural robot intuition ?
By the way, robots exist mainly in science fiction. Junior will gladly
play if there's a robot nearby, and this actually improves its strength.
Amir
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