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Subject: Re: smp question about kns, engine, and other program tasks-Mr Hyatt

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 20:32:40 11/30/01

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On November 30, 2001 at 12:18:20, Slater Wold wrote:

>On November 30, 2001 at 11:59:01, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>On November 30, 2001 at 02:31:18, Slater Wold wrote:
>>
>>>On November 29, 2001 at 21:21:33, K. Burcham wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Mr Hyatt. i have read the posts here about deep fritz and its kns increase with
>>>>two processors.
>>>>
>>>>from the info i have seen with my dual machine, i have become curious about
>>>>something. below are the examples with difference in hardware.
>>>>
>>>>program A on single processor 1500 mhz     1400 kns
>>>>program A on dual   processor 3000 mhz     2000 kns
>>>>
>>>>program B on single processor 1500 mhz     1400 kns
>>>>program B on dual   processor 3000 mhz     1400 to 1500 kns
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>my question is only about the chess software. not the hardware. not the ram.
>>>>not the hash.
>>>>
>>>>is it possible with these smp programs that something else going on in the chess
>>>>software, that you can comment on. in other words if this kns is accurate and a
>>>>true value (that deep fritz is giving us), then is it possible the program is
>>>>doing something else with this second processor that will not show a kns
>>>>increase but will add to its strength. the reason for this question is that when
>>>>i run task manager in windows 2000, it shows that the program is using the
>>>>second processor with deep fritz as much as my other smp programs (90 to 100%)
>>>>but it shows no increase in kns.
>>>>
>>>>kburcham
>>>
>>>No.  Because it's not solving the problem any quicker either.
>>
>>
>>For the record, if you run crafty, you will _always_ see both cpus running
>>at 100%.  But it is possible that one thread is in a spin-lock waiting on
>>the other to release something, or that one is spinning waiting on work.
>>
>>IE just because a cpu is busy doesn't mean it is busy doing something
>>_useful_.  :)
>
>Speaking of which, did you know Crafty reports the wrong CPU usage time in
>Windows?  It always says that I am using like 90% when task manager (along with
>other utilities) say it's using 100%.
>

I have seen this, but since I don't run windows here, I have never been able
to track it down.  If you are interested, I can tell you how the timing stuff
works and perhaps get it right...




>I also checked the memory paging in Crafty between 3xxMB ram and 7xxMB RAM.  I
>am guessing Crafty does the global lock, because it did extremly well.  Better
>than any others tested.


Not sure what you mean by "global lock"...



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