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Subject: Re: Endgame Test Position

Author: Will Singleton

Date: 23:51:34 12/01/01

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On December 01, 2001 at 23:53:30, Peter McKenzie wrote:

>I am working on an endgame test suite, and finding it surprisingly difficult to
>get good test positions.  It is interesting that many of the positions found in
>chess books either have a dual solution, or (less common) the solution has a
>mistake.
>
>Take the following position for example:
>
>[D]8/3n1pkp/6p1/1P1N4/3K2P1/7P/8/8 w - -
>
>Chigorin - Marshall, Karlsbad 1907
>
>Chigorin played the thematic 1.g5!, which clearly wins as it prevents any black
>counter-play.
>
>But I think that most computers will initially prefer 1.b6, and it is unclear if
>this is winning or not.  I think tablebases could be quite useful here, so
>perhaps someone could run crafty/yace/fritz/tiger etc on it for a decent amount
>of time.
>
>One possible attempted defence is 1.b6 f5 2.gf gf 3.b7, it might be worth
>starting a search from there.
>
>cheers,
>Peter

I don't think it's a good test position, because either move wins.  b6 f5 g5!
or g5 f5 gf.  (is that correct notation for ep?)

Will



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