Author: Christophe Theron
Date: 00:52:39 12/02/01
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On December 02, 2001 at 01:48:03, Uri Blass wrote:
>On December 01, 2001 at 23:06:28, Christophe Theron wrote:
>
>>On December 01, 2001 at 18:06:49, Uri Blass wrote:
>>
>>>On December 01, 2001 at 17:27:31, Harald Faber wrote:
>>>
>>>>On December 01, 2001 at 10:13:54, Bertil Eklund wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On December 01, 2001 at 09:52:54, Harald Faber wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On November 30, 2001 at 18:59:45, Bertil Eklund wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I can implement the code for mating with b+n or I can let it out and say "the
>>>>>>TBs solve this". Christophe obviously did the 2nd, who is to blame?
>>>>>
>>>>>I think that most users play with the delivered 3 and 4 man tablebases. There
>>>>>are also a lot of users that plays with the four Turbo-cds from Chessbase or
>>>>>Millenium, in fact it is probably a houndred times more people that only use the
>>>>>standard tbs that is included with the programs.
>>>>>
>>>>>Bertil
>>>>
>>>>Sorry to say that but it should be common knowledge that using incomplete
>>>>5-man-TBs produces such behaviour and therefore unrealistic results.
>>>
>>>It should be common knowledge of programmers to use the incomplete 5 piece
>>>tablebases correctly(stopping to use tablebases when the distance to mate is not
>>>reduced is a possible way).
>>>
>>>Uri
>>
>>
>>
>>I'm sorry but this is the responsability of the testers.
>>
>>It is common knowledge of programmers that 12Kb of hash tables is inferior to
>>192Mb.
>>
>>So if the tester wants to use 12Kb of hash table, should the program:
>>1) use 12Kb?
>>2) refuse to run?
>>3) use 192Mb no matter what?
>
>It is a different case
>no user is using 12 kbytes but many users use the incomplete tablebases.
>
>It is the responsibilities of the testers to give the programs equal conditions
>that mean to give them the same tablebases.
>
>It is not the duty of the testers to use the full 5 piece tablebases because it
>is possible that there is not enough place in the harddisk for them.
>
>Uri
That's not the problem either. I don't care if the tablebases are installed up
to 4 or up to 5 men.
What I care about is a consistent installation of tablebases.
For example, installing all the 5 men TB but none of the 4 men TB is a wrong
setup.
Installing KPK but not KQK is a wrong setup.
And so on...
Christophe
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