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Subject: Re: programmer strength vs program strength?

Author: David Fotland

Date: 14:33:28 06/04/98

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On June 03, 1998 at 17:05:32, odell hall wrote:

>I am curious do programmers know how to defeat there own programs. It
>would seem reasonable since they would have specific knowledge about the
>strengths and weakness of their own programs. For instance i would love
>schroeder to tell me the best way to beat rebel. Or is this question
>rediculous?? Can I please get some comments on this from various
>programmers

I can't beat my program, but I am quite weak as a chess player,
about 1600 on FICS.  My program is about 1800.  A related question
is: Is there a limit to how much better the program can be than
the programmer (or chess advisor)?  I doubt I could write a competitive
chess program since I wouldn't know what to put in the evaluation
function.  And Deep Blue had a grandmaster advisor.  Is anyone's
program more than 400 points stronger than the programmer (or advisor)?
Perhaps once the program is strong enough that the programmer can't beat
it, the programmer can't figure out how to improve it easily?

David



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