Author: Eelco de Groot
Date: 10:20:26 12/02/01
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So that is another reason for 4.Ng1-f3, saves a lot of work! I believe that is something of a Hanham set-up in the Philidor? So do you think 4.f2-f4 would be the stronger move? I don't know if Rebel would handle that very well, maybe that would best be played by gambitting Tigers. This is Q5T analysis after [Event ""] [Site ""] [Date ""] [Round ""] [White ""] [Black ""] [Result ""] 1.e4 d6 2.d4 Nf6 3.Nc3 Nbd7 4.Nf3 e5 * [D]r1bqkb1r/pppn1ppp/3p1n2/4p3/3PP3/2N2N2/PPP2PPP/R1BQKB1R w KQkq e6 Last Move : 4... e5 (White to play) 00:00 06.00 -0.52 4..e5 5.Bg5 exd4 6.Nxd4 h6 7.Bxf6 Nxf6 8.f4 00:00 04.02 0.59 5.Bg5 exd4 6.Nxd4 h6 7.Bh4 00:00 05.00 0.58 5.Bg5 exd4 6.Nxd4 h6 7.Bxf6 Nxf6 8.f4 00:01 06.00 0.51 5.Bg5 Be7 6.dxe5 Nxe5 7.Nxe5 dxe5 8.Qxd8+ Bxd8 9.O-O-O 00:06 07.00 0.45 5.Bg5 Be7 6.dxe5 Nxe5 7.Nxe5 dxe5 8.Bc4 O-O 9.O-O 00:08 07.01 0.55 5.Bc4 exd4 6.Qxd4 Be7 7.Bf4 Nb6 00:19 08.00 0.54 5.Bc4 exd4 6.Qxd4 Nb6 7.Ng5 Nxc4 8.Qxc4 Qd7 9.Be3 00:49 08.10 0.63 5.dxe5 dxe5 6.Bc4 Bd6 7.Be3 Nb6 8.Qd3 Bg4 9.Bb5+ c6 02:17 09.00 0.75 5.dxe5 dxe5 6.Bc4 Bd6 7.Ng5 06:48 10.00 0.61 5.dxe5 dxe5 6.Bc4 Bd6 7.Bg5 h6 8.Bh4 Nb6 9.Bxf6 Qxf6 40:51 11.00 0.46 5.dxe5 dxe5 6.a3 Be7 7.Bc4 O-O 8.O-O c6 46:29 11.01 0.48 5.Bc4 exd4 6.Qxd4 c6 7.Bg5 h6 8.Bh4 Be7 49:41 11.02 0.62 5.Bg5 Be7 6.dxe5 dxe5 7.Qe2 Ng4 Bookmove is 5.Bf1-c4. Eelco On December 02, 2001 at 11:11:46, Eelco de Groot wrote: >On December 02, 2001 at 07:56:10, Marc van Hal wrote: > >>Someone asked me wich was the best way to play against the Lion >>Position reult after 1.e4,d6 2.d4,Nf6 3.Nbd7 >>Suprisingly The lion did not stand in Rebels book >> >>It does in the Junior7 book and DeepFritz book >>And it is not likely Rebel wil play the best moves by it self but rather plays >>Nf3 >>How come? >> >>Regards >>Marc van Hal > >What is interesting is that Rebel, atleast old Century 2.0, will play The Lion >by itself after > > >[Event ""] >[Site ""] >[Date ""] >[Round ""] >[White ""] >[Black ""] >[Result ""] > >1.e4 d6 2.d4 Nf6 3.Nc3 * > >Rebel Engine for ECTool. (c) Ed Schröder > >Engine version : REBEL CENTURY 2 >Rebel personality : Rebel.eng >Opening book file : RebelC.mvs >Hash table size : 2 MB >Analysis mode : Analyzing next move >Refresh interval : 500 ms > >Last Move : 3.Nc3 (Black to play) > >00:00 05.00 -0.24 3..e5 4.Nf3 Bg4 5.Bb5+ c6 >00:01 06.00 -0.40 3..e5 4.dxe5 dxe5 5.Qxd8+ Kxd8 6.Bc4 Ke8 7.Nf3 >00:01 06.02 -0.27 3..Nc6 4.Nf3 Bg4 5.d5 Ne5 6.Bb5+ c6 >00:03 07.00 -0.32 3..Nc6 4.Bg5 a6 5.Nge2 Bd7 6.d5 Ne5 >00:04 07.07 -0.30 3..Nbd7 4.Bg5 h6 5.Be3 e5 6.Bb5 c6 >00:07 08.00 -0.30 3..Nbd7 4.Nf3 e5 5.Be3 c6 6.Bc4 Nb6 7.Bb3 >00:14 09.00 -0.32 3..Nbd7 4.Nf3 e5 5.Bg5 Be7 6.dxe5 dxe5 7.Bc4 h6 >00:56 10.00 -0.30 3..Nbd7 4.Bg5 h6 5.Bh4 c6 6.Nf3 e5 7.Bc4 >02:18 11.00 -0.27 3..Nbd7 4.Bg5 h6 5.Bxf6 exf6 6.Nf3 Nb6 7.a4 a5 8.Be2 >09:58 12.00 -0.26 3..Nbd7 4.Nf3 e5 5.Bc4 exd4 6.Nxd4 Be7 7.O-O Ne5 >25:57 13.00 -0.29 3..Nbd7 4.Nf3 e5 5.Bg5 exd4 6.Nxd4 c6 > > >So if Rebel thinks that 3. ..Nbd7 is a strong move, there is something to be >said for letting the program handle the variatian the way it thinks best. That >way you are likely to get moves that are suited to it's own style. I think that >on move four also brandnew Rebel Century Four might play 4.Bg5, on longer >move-times 4.Nf3. Is there somebody already who can try that with the new Rebel? > >After 3. ..Nbd7 I also looked what Q5T would play: > > >[D]r1bqkb1r/pppnpppp/3p1n2/8/3PP3/2N5/PPP2PPP/R1BQKBNR w KQkq - > >Last Move : 3... Nbd7 (White to play) > >00:00 05.02 0.72 4.Bb5 c6 5.Bc4 e5 6.f4 >00:00 06.01 0.78 4.Bg5 e5 5.Bc4 exd4 6.Qxd4 Be7 7.O-O-O >00:01 07.00 0.67 4.Bg5 h6 5.Bh4 e5 6.d5 c6 7.f3 >00:04 08.00 0.72 4.Bg5 e5 5.Bxf6 Nxf6 6.dxe5 dxe5 7.Qxd8+ Kxd8 8.Nf3 Bb4 >9.Nxe5 >00:13 09.00 0.62 4.Bg5 e5 5.Bb5 c6 6.dxe5 Nxe5 7.Bxf6 Qxf6 8.Nd5 Qd8 >00:54 10.00 0.64 4.Bg5 e5 5.Bc4 Be7 6.f4 Nb6 7.Bb5+ c6 8.Bxf6 >02:36 11.00 0.65 4.Bg5 e5 5.Nf3 exd4 6.Nxd4 h6 7.Bxf6 Nxf6 8.Bb5+ Bd7 >11:55 12.00 0.57 4.Bg5 e5 5.Nf3 exd4 6.Nxd4 c6 7.f4 Qb6 8.Rb1 >20:06 12.04 0.62 4.Nf3 e5 5.dxe5 dxe5 6.Bc4 Bd6 7.Bg5 Nb6 8.Bxf6
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