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Subject: Re: There goes the surprise ... / SOUR GRAPES

Author: Roy Eassa

Date: 10:16:18 12/03/01

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On December 02, 2001 at 06:42:28, James Stacey wrote:

>On December 02, 2001 at 00:13:46, Sally Weltrop wrote:
>
>>On December 01, 2001 at 18:09:25, James Stacey wrote:
>>
>>>On December 01, 2001 at 15:47:02, Roy Eassa wrote:
>>>
>>>>On December 01, 2001 at 07:47:24, James Stacey wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>If you don't mind me saying, your post looks a bit like sour grapes. Why can't
>>>>>you just admit that Gambit Tiger is no stronger than Gandalf. Instead of trying
>>>>>to find excuses, why don't you give some credit to Gandalf. I am sure that many
>>>>>hours of time have gone into the programming and testing of Gandalf also.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>How do you account for the fact that Tiger has come out significantly ahead of
>>>>Gandalf in about 95% of the dozens of tournaments run in the past 1/2 year?
>>>>There is a lot of evidence that Tiger is stronger.
>>>
>>>Please post this so called evidence along with setups and the tablebases used.
>>>
>>>>
>>>>Do you consider it IMPOSSIBLE that Christophe may be correct that Tiger was
>>>>unfairly crippled in this match?
>>>
>>>Lots of improbable things are not impossible.
>>>
>>>>
>>>>When Bobby Fischer complained in the '60s that Soviet grandmasters were
>>>>discussing each others' ongoing games in detail (in Russian) at tournaments, he
>>>>was not taken seriously.
>>>
>>>Do you take Fischers' current complaints about America seriously?
>>>
>>>  During the '80s & '90s, several Soviet & former Soviet
>>>>GMs, admitted that Fischer had been correct.  (If I recall correctly, Bronstein
>>>>and Korchnoi were among those.  And wasn't Keres the first?)
>>>
>>>Are you saying that the SSDF are involved in some sort of absurd communist plot
>>>to stop Gambit Tiger from winning?
>>>
>>>>
>>>>Not all claims of unfairness are sour grapes.  Some happen to be objectively
>>>>accurate.
>>>
>>>There is no such thing as objectivety.
>>
>>In all fairness James you didn't listen to one word that Roy said to you. You
>>are merging circumstances together. Basically he's saying just because someone
>>laments about something and complains doesn't mean that their claims are
>>invalid, sometimes they have a point which I think Chris does have here in my
>>opinion. Roy was just givng you an illustration of someone crying "sour grapes"
>>NOT because they were fighting an uphill battle but because they had some valid
>>points and these points years later were well founded in truth.
>>>
>>>Best Regards
>>>
>>>James Stacey
>
>I see that arguing with Roy is like arguing with you.
>
>Fortunately I am unable to listen to what Roy says. I think you are getting your
>circumstances mixed up here. Unfortunately, however, I was able to read his
>post. I concluded that from start to finish his post was, like your post,
>complete nonsense.
>
>It is easy to see how you and Roy get on so well together.
>
>Best Regards
>
>James Stacey



Sally, some people simply do not understand analogies, and some must resort to
personal insults when they do not have a logical argument.  It's always been
that way and, sadly, will always be so.



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