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Subject: Re: Nice testposition from an ICC game Gromit-Bringer ( Tactics)

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 01:28:41 12/04/01

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On December 03, 2001 at 18:32:09, Ingo Bauer wrote:

>On December 03, 2001 at 15:37:56, Peter Berger wrote:
>
>>Golem - Bringer1.9ß11
>>[D]r5k1/4R1pp/2b2q2/2Bp4/p1p5/P4P2/1P1Q2PP/6K1 w - - 0 1 bm h4
>>
>>The account Golem is running a current version of Gromit on an Athlon 1400.
>>
>>In this position Gromit found the nice and surprising shot h4 - the only road to
>>a winning advantage for white.
>
>Hello Peter
>
>This is was YACE, Deep Shredder and Gandalf 4.32h Thinks about it on the same
>Hardware as Gromit. The only prog. that finds it in a resonable time is (besides
>Gromit) of course YACE (anyone doubt that?).
>
>Yes indeed, its a nice position!
>
>Engine: Yace 0.99.60
>by Dieter Buerssner
>
>  7.46	 0:00 	+0.32 	1.Rc7 Qe6 2.h3 Re8 3.Qd4 Bd7 4.b4 (608.087) 707.0
>  8.01	 0:01 	+0.12 	1.Rc7 Qe6 2.h3 Re8 3.Qc3 Bd7 4.Qd4 Kh8 (923.899) 745.6
>  8.02	 0:01 	+0.13++ 	1.Qe2 Qg6 2.Bd4 Re8 3.Bxg7 Rxe7 4.Qxe7 c3 (977.770) 742.9
>  8.02	 0:02 	+0.28 	1.Qe2 Bb5 2.h3 Kh8 3.Qd2 Rd8 4.Qa5 Rb8 (1.507.583) 739.0
>  8.03	 0:02 	+0.29++ 	1.h3 Kh8 2.Rxg7 Qxb2 3.Qxb2 c3 4.Qxc3 Re8 (1.803.160)
>738.6
>  8.03	 0:02 	+0.28-- 	1.h3 Rc8 2.Qe3 Qg6 3.Rc7 Rxc7 4.Bd4 (1.979.204) 737.1
>  8.03	 0:02 	+0.28 	1.Qe2 Bb5 2.h3 Kh8 3.Qd2 Rd8 4.Qa5 Rb8 (1.979.204) 737.1
>  8.22	 0:03 	+0.29++ 	1.Qe1 Qg6 2.Bd4 Re8 3.Bxg7 Bd7 4.Rxe8+ Kxg7 (2.497.660)
>738.7
>  8.22	 0:03 	+0.28-- 	1.Qe1 Bb5 2.b4 axb3 3.Re6 Qf5 4.Kf2 (2.718.185) 735.8
>  8.22	 0:03 	+0.28 	1.Qe2 Bb5 2.h3 Kh8 3.Qd2 Rd8 4.Qa5 Rb8 (2.718.185) 735.8
>  8.46	 0:04 	+0.28 	1.Qe2 Bb5 2.h3 Kh8 3.Qd2 Rd8 4.Qa5 Rb8 (3.314.340) 738.3
>  9.01	 0:07 	+0.15 	1.Qe2 Rc8 2.h3 Qg6 3.Qf2 Re8 4.Rc7 Qe6 5.b4 (5.866.185)
>752.2
>  9.03	 0:09 	+0.16++ 	1.h3 Rc8 2.Qd4 Qxd4+ 3.Bxd4 c3 4.bxc3 Kf8 5.Rxg7 h5
>(6.849.457) 756.5
>  9.03	 0:11 	+0.33 	1.h3 Rd8 2.Rc7 Qg6 3.Qd1 h6 4.Be7 Re8 5.Qd4 (8.479.966)
>748.3
>  9.46	 0:13 	+0.33 	1.h3 Rd8 2.Rc7 Qg6 3.Qd1 h6 4.Be7 Re8 5.Qd4 (10.487.909)
>762.0
> 10.01	 0:17 	+0.56 	1.h3 Rc8 2.Ra7 Qh6 3.Qxh6 gxh6 4.Bd4 Bb7 5.Rxb7 Rc7
>(13.531.121) 754.2
> 10.46	 0:21 	+0.56 	1.h3 Rc8 2.Ra7 Qh6 3.Qxh6 gxh6 4.Bd4 Bb7 5.Rxb7 Rc7
>(16.579.510) 760.9
> 11.01	 0:33 	+0.81 	1.h3 h6 2.Qe3 Qg6 3.Bd4 Re8 4.Bxg7 Rxe7 5.Qxe7 Qxg7 6.Qe6+
>Kh7 7.Qxc6 Qxb2 8.Qxd5 (24.988.676) 754.6
> 11.46	 0:55 	+0.81 	1.h3 h6 2.Qe3 Qg6 3.Bd4 Re8 4.Bxg7 Rxe7 5.Qxe7 Qxg7 6.Qe6+
>Kh7 7.Qxc6 Qxb2 8.Qxd5 (42.021.804) 759.5
> 12.01	 1:12 	+0.56 	1.h3 Rc8 2.Qe3 Qg6 3.Bd4 Re8 4.Bxg7 Rxe7 5.Qxe7 Qxg7 6.Qe6+
>Kf8 7.Qxc6 Qxb2 8.Qh6+ Kf7 9.Qxh7+ Ke6 (54.434.605) 753.5
> 12.35	 2:16 	+0.57++ 	1.h4 Qxh4 2.Rc7 Re8 3.Bf2 Qf6 4.Bd4 Re1+ 5.Qxe1 Qxd4+
>6.Qf2 Qd1+ 7.Kh2 Qb1 (102.002.024) 749.3
> 12.35	 2:35 	+0.75 	1.h4 Qxh4 2.Rc7 Re8 3.Bf2 Qf6 4.Bd4 Re1+ 5.Qxe1 Qxd4+ 6.Kf1
>Qf6 7.Qc3 Qxc3 8.bxc3 (116.356.480) 746.2
> 12.46	 3:01 	+0.75 	1.h4 Qxh4 2.Rc7 Re8 3.Bf2 Qf6 4.Bd4 Re1+ 5.Qxe1 Qxd4+ 6.Kf1
>Qf6 7.Qc3 Qxc3 8.bxc3 (134.590.702) 740.1
> 13.01	 4:52 	+1.14 	1.h4 Rc8 2.Qe3 Qg6 3.h5 Qb1+ 4.Kh2 Qf5 5.Bd4 Qxh5+ 6.Kg1
>Rc7 7.Rxc7 Qxf3 (213.189.225) 728.9
> 13.46	 5:58 	+1.14 	1.h4 Rc8 2.Qe3 Qg6 3.h5 Qb1+ 4.Kh2 Qf5 5.Bd4 Qxh5+ 6.Kg1
>Rc7 7.Rxc7 Qxf3 (263.186.085) 734.8
> 14.01	13:14 	+1.17 	1.h4 Re8 2.Rxe8+ Bxe8 3.Qxd5+ Qf7 4.Qe4 h6 5.Bf2
>(564.766.297) 710.9
> 14.05	14:45 	+1.17 	1.h4 Re8 2.Rxe8+ Bxe8 3.Qxd5+ Qf7 4.Qe4 h6 5.Bf2
>(633.113.364) 715.3
>best move: h2-h4 time: 14:45.092 min  n/s: 715.327  nodes: 633.113.364


Yace found it only for positional reasons

Here is yace only material version that cannot find it at depth 14(hardware p800
64 mbytes hash)

I doubt if it is a good tactical position and I did not try to check if h4 Re8
wins more than a pawn for white.

New position
r5k1/4R1pp/2b2q2/2Bp4/p1p5/P4P2/1P1Q2PP/6K1 w - - 0 1

Analysis by Yace 0.99.56:

1.Rxg7+ Qxg7
  -+  (-4.20)   Depth: 1   00:00:03
1.Rc7
  =  (0.00)   Depth: 1   00:00:03
1.Rc7 Qe6
  =  (0.00)   Depth: 2   00:00:03
1.Rc7 Qe6 2.Qd4
  =  (0.00)   Depth: 3   00:00:03
1.Rc7 Qe6 2.Ra7 Rxa7
  =  (0.00)   Depth: 4   00:00:03
1.Rc7 Qe6 2.Ra7 Rxa7 3.Bxa7
  =  (0.00)   Depth: 5   00:00:03  5kN
1.Rc7 Qe6 2.Ra7 Rxa7 3.Bxa7 Kf7 4.Qd4
  =  (0.00)   Depth: 6   00:00:03  28kN
1.Rc7 Qe6 2.Ra7 Rxa7 3.Bxa7 Kf7 4.Kf2 Qg6
  =  (0.00)   Depth: 7   00:00:04  93kN
1.Rc7 Qe6 2.Ra7 Rxa7 3.Bxa7 Kf7 4.Kf2 Qg6 5.Qd4
  =  (0.00)   Depth: 8   00:00:04  368kN
1.Rc7 Qe6 2.Ra7 Rxa7 3.Bxa7 Kf7 4.Kf2 Qg6 5.Qd4 Qb1
  =  (0.00)   Depth: 9   00:00:05  1140kN
1.Rc7 Qe6 2.Ra7 Rxa7 3.Bxa7 Kf7 4.Kf2 Qg6 5.Qd4 Qb1 6.Kg3
  =  (0.00)   Depth: 10   00:00:07  2125kN
1.Rc7 Qe6 2.Ra7 Rxa7 3.Bxa7 Kf7 4.Kf2 Qg6 5.Qd4 Qb1 6.Kg3 Kg6
  =  (0.00)   Depth: 11   00:00:14  6448kN
1.h3 Kh8 2.Rxg7 c3 3.bxc3 Qxf3
  =  (0.01)   Depth: 11   00:00:35  19067kN
1.h3 c3 2.bxc3 Rd8 3.Qd4 Qxd4+ 4.cxd4 Kh8 5.Kf2 Re8 6.Rxe8+ Bxe8 7.Kf1 Bd7
  ±  (0.80)   Depth: 11   00:00:41  22390kN
1.h3 c3 2.bxc3 Rb8 3.Qd4 Qxd4+ 4.Bxd4 Rb1+ 5.Kh2 Rb7 6.Re6 Bb5 7.Be5 Bc4 8.Rd6
Kf7
  ±  (0.80)   Depth: 12   00:01:07  37296kN
1.h3 c3 2.bxc3 Rb8 3.Qd4 Qxd4+ 4.Bxd4 Rb1+ 5.Kh2 Rb7 6.Re6 Bb5 7.Be5 Bc4 8.Rd6
Kf7 9.g3
  ±  (0.80)   Depth: 13   00:02:19  78536kN
1.h3 Re8 2.Rxe8+ Bxe8 3.Qxd5+ Kh8 4.Qxc4 Qxb2 5.Kh2 Qe5+ 6.f4 Qe1 7.Bd4 Qe7
8.Bb2 Bd7 9.Qc7 Kg8 10.g3
  ±  (0.80)   Depth: 14   00:06:47  233823kN
1.h3 Re8 2.Rxe8+ Bxe8 3.Qxd5+ Kh8 4.Qxc4 Qxb2 5.Kh2 Qe5+ 6.f4 Qe1 7.Bd4 Qe7
8.Bb2 Bd7 9.Qc7 Kg8 10.Bc3 Kh8
  ±  (0.80)   Depth: 15   00:16:29  562605kN

(Blass, Tel-aviv 04.12.2001)

Uri



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