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Subject: Re: St.Andersen vs. Deamon 0.87A

Author: Benny Antonsson

Date: 10:30:24 12/04/01

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On December 02, 2001 at 11:55:16, Gareth McCaughan wrote:

>On December 01, 2001 at 18:49:33, Benny Antonsson wrote:
>
>[I observed that "Deamon" is a mis-spelling...]
>
>> We know... we first selected the word Deamon and thought it was
>> the right spelling. After a while we realized that it was wrong,
>> and ever since then we have argued about changing the name or not...
>> we haven't really decided yet... any suggestion of a new name ?
>> Or should we just spell it right ?
>
>I think it would be quite amusing to use the very obscure
>spelling "daimon". Most of the very few times I've seen that word
>used, it's been with reference to the ancient Greek philosopher
>Socrates. He claimed that he received guidance from some kind
>of divine being which he called his "daimon". (Of course, back
>then it wasn't an obscure literary word; it was an ordinary
>word in the language he spoke.)
>
>In general, a "daimon" in Greek mythology was sort of half way
>between a human and a god. There were allegedly good ones
>(like Socrates's) and bad ones.
>
>One English word that's almost equivalent to "daimon" in some
>of its uses is "genius". Not in the sense of "really clever person"
>but in the sense -- much less common these days -- in which,
>e.g., it was used by Shakespeare: "And under him my genius is
>rebuk'd, As, 'tis said, Mark Antony's was by Caesar". The meaning
>is, as with Socrates, something like "guiding spirit".
>
>It would, as I say, be quite amusing to have a program whose
>name will be understood, by the 1% of people who understand it
>at all, as being equivalent to "genius". :-)
>
>The word "demon" comes from the same place, but because it was
>generally used as the translation for "daimon" in the New Testament
>(where it always refers to evil spirits) it's always had that
>connotation of evil. That may or may not be part of what you
>want, of course.
>
>There's one association that "demon" has and "daimon" lacks,
>which might be a shame. There are phrases like "speed demon",
>meaning "very very fast person or thing". I think they come
>from the idea that the devil and his servants are beings of
>great power as well as great evil, but I'm not sure. So if
>you were hoping for resonances of "speed demon" then "daimon"
>won't do so well.
>
>Anyway, you asked a fairly concrete question, and I've responded
>by blathering at grossly excessive length. I'll return to the
>actual issue. I think calling the program "Deamon" is probably
>a bad idea unless you can find some explanation that doesn't
>involve it being a mis-spelling of "demon" or "daemon". You
>could just use one of the correct spellings. If you want to
>look for something different, what you're looking for probably
>depends on why you liked the original name. Was it the implication
>of evil? supernatural-ness? mystery? power? possession? Or
>something to do with phrases like "speed demon", "Maxwell's
>demon", "demon driver", etc?
>
>The chances are that "demon" will reflect your intentions
>perfectly well. It's time I shut up. Sorry for boring you. :-)
>
>--
>g
Ah ! You are quite a writer !
We have decided to rename the program to: Alarm

Thanks for your help



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