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Subject: Re: h4 test position on three Deep programs 2x1533mp

Author: Roy Eassa

Date: 12:50:01 12/04/01

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On December 04, 2001 at 15:36:36, Uri Blass wrote:

>On December 04, 2001 at 15:03:48, Roy Eassa wrote:
>
>>On December 04, 2001 at 13:29:50, Roy Eassa wrote:
>>
>>>On December 04, 2001 at 10:34:00, K. Burcham wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>looking for h4.
>>>>
>>>>[D] r5k1/4R1pp/2b2q2/2Bp4/p1p5/P4P2/1P1Q2PP/6K1 w - - 0 1
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>deep fritz    h4     90 seconds     depth 14/34   1380 kns
>>>>             (h3      4 seconds)
>>>>deep junior7  h4     21 minutes     depth 22      1850 kns
>>>>             (h3      1 second)
>>>>deep shredder h4     41 minutes      ?            530  kns
>>>>             (h3     57 seconds)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Could somebody please explain the idea behind h4?
>>
>>
>>Lookiing at the position with Fritz 6, it seems that h4 is the only move to both
>>give White's king an escape square AND threaten to push to h5 to chase Black's
>>queen from a key defensive square in key variations.
>>
>>1.h4
>>
>>   [1.Qe3 Qg6 2.Re6 (2.Bd4 Re8 3.h3 Qb1+ 4.Kh2 Qg6) 2...Qb1+;
>>
>>    1.h3 Rc8 2.Qe3 Qg6 3.Bd4 Re8;
>>
>>    1.Rc7 Qe6 2.Bd4 (2.Qg5?? Qe1#) 2...Bd7]
>>
>>1...Qxh4
>>
>>   [1...Rb8 2.Qe3 Qf5 (2...h6? 3.Bd4) 3.Bd6!
>>      (or 3.Bd4 Rb7 4.Rxb7 Bxb7 5.Qe8+ Qf8 6.Qxa4)
>>
>>    3...Rf8
>>       (3...Rc8 4.Be5;
>>        3...Rb7 4.Re8+ Kf7 5.Rf8+)
>>    4.Qc5 Be8 (4...Rc8 5.Be5) 5.Re1;
>>
>>    1...Rc8 2.Qe3 Qg6 3.h5! Qxh5 4.Qe6+;
>>
>>    1...h5 2.Rc7 Qe6 3.Qg5 Bd7 4.Bd4 Qf7 5.Bxg7]
>>
>>2.Qe3 Qh6
>>
>>   [2...Qf6 3.Bd4]
>>
>>3.Qxh6 gxh6 4.Bd4 Re8 5.Rg7+ Kf8 6.Rxh7 Re6 7.Kf2 and White is a little better
>>(but can White win?)
>
>Your analysis is wrong
>Qxh4 is losing against Rc7
>
>Yace only material learned that Rc7 is winning and preferd c3
>see http://www.icdchess.com/forums/1/message.shtml?200343
>
>I am not sure if white is winning because black has other options like 1...c3
>or 1...Re8
>
>White has a pawn advnatage but I did not prove more than it.
>
>Uri


Somewhat corrected analysis, based on your input:

New position

1.h4
   [1.Qe3 Qg6 2.Re6 (2.Bd4 Re8 3.h3 Qb1+ 4.Kh2 Qg6=) 2...Qb1+=;

    1.h3 Rc8 2.Qe3 Qg6 3.Bd4 Re8=;

    1.Rc7 Qe6 2.Bd4 (2.Qg5?? Qe1#) 2...Bd7=]

1...c3
   [1...Rb8 2.Qe3 Qf5 (2...h6? 3.Bd4) 3.Bd6!
      (or 3.Bd4 Rb7 4.Rxb7 Bxb7 5.Qe8+ Qf8 6.Qxa4)
    3...Rf8
      (3...Rc8 4.Be5;
       3...Rb7 4.Re8+ Kf7 5.Rf8+)
    4.Qc5 Be8 (4...Rc8 5.Be5) 5.Re1;

    1...Rc8 2.Qe3 Qg6 3.h5! Qxh5 4.Qe6+;

    1...h5 2.Rc7 Qe6 3.Qg5 Bd7 4.Bd4 Qf7 5.Bxg7;

    1...Qxh4 2.Rc7 Re8 3.Bf2 Qf6 4.Bd4±;

    1...Re8 2.Rxe8+ Bxe8 3.Qxd5+±]

2.Qxc3 Qxc3 3.bxc3±



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