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Subject: Re: Interesting numbers about hashing - 32 bits are clearly not enough

Author: Slater Wold

Date: 14:02:42 12/06/01

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On December 06, 2001 at 15:21:17, J. Wesley Cleveland wrote:

>This problem is like the problem "How many people does it take before
>it is probable that two have the same birthday ?". The answer, which
>many people find suprising is 23. To calculate this, calculate the
>probability p, that two people have different birthdays = 364/365.
>Then calculate how many pairs of people n, you need before this is less
>than 1/2, p^n <.5. Then find the number of people g, which taken two at
>a time is >= n, g = n*(n-1)/2.
>
>The same method tells you how many different positions you can have
>before it is likely that two will have the same hash key.
>
>32 bits 77163
>48 bits 1.97536627683E+7
>64 bits 5.05693754118E+9
>
>
>Thanks to Cliff Leitch for providing a high precision freeware calculator.

I agree.  It's time for 64 bits and integers.

On Crafty right now, I cannot search for more than about 6 minutes a position,
or the node counter resets.  That's a bummer.



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