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Subject: Re: World championship titles

Author: Don Dailey

Date: 12:47:24 06/05/98

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On June 05, 1998 at 13:10:12, Don Prohaska wrote:

>Ah, yes, phoney claims to make a sale. But, take a look at what computer
>companies do with ratings today. Perhaps 80 percent of the people that
>would buy a chess program have a P\90 or less (I don't know this as a
>fact). So Rebel might rate highest on a P\90, but Socko blows Rebel away
>on its P3\650. The testers claim Socko is tops. I buy Socko to use with
>my P\70 and my brother using an old 486 blows me away with his Rebel.
>Now, computer companies know that the general population can't stay up
>with the latest compter (regardless of what KK thinks :}}} ) Isn't that
>the same as claiming ratings the most likely buyer will never see? A
>programmer will always want to test his product against the competition
>using the best and latest hardware. And if he does well, he'll brag. And
>he'll advertise! Nothing wrong with that. We know that some companies
>lie, exagerate, cheat, etc, to sell a product. There are at least two
>large software companies that sell chess software that are full of real
>bugs, and I hear very little complaint. Some companies with fine
>products will hawk there products and perhaps exagerate, like calling
>there product the "Absolute World Champion" when no one really knows
>what that means. Except the beginner who must learn the hardway.
>
>I hope this sounds the way I meant it to.

As long as the hardware is clearly and prominently specified, this
is not a problem, the public has to be trusted to make some decisions
correctly.  When I compare two programs I take these factors into
consideration and I think most others do to.  If I see Rebel on top
with a Pentium 500 MHZ screamer I will not compare it to MCHESS
running on a 386.  (This is an example, not based on anything I
actually saw, so no flames please.)

I think it's basically that simple! If a new rating organization
comes to be, I only ask that every detail is clearly published
so that we can make our own rational  decisions.  Even if the
methodology is screwed up (like not counting time forfeits) having
complete documenation and knowing this will give us all the data
we need to draw our own conclusions.

- Don









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