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Subject: Re: Trolling, #1: The right wrong move

Author: Dann Corbit

Date: 20:32:01 12/07/01

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On December 07, 2001 at 23:00:35, Mike S. wrote:

>[D]8/8/8/7p/P5p1/5n1N/1P3k2/7K b - - 0 47
>
>Here, White just played Nxh3+. My program doesn't take the knight (gxh3) but
>plays Kf1??. I think it's broken.
>
>(solution tomorrow)
>
>If you ask, "what is the question?": That's part of the question. :o)

Taking the knight is a mate in 23 (via tablebase) despite both sides queening

white ( 1): setboard 8/8/8/7p/P5p1/5n1N/1P3k2/7K b - -
Stored 8 learned positions into hash table
black ( 1): go
usetime = 998.00, mintime = 998.00 maxtime = 998.00 tl 998.00 ml 0
         1   0.023   3.39  1t  1...gxh3 {340}
         6   0.023   3.39  1.  1...gxh3 {340}
        10   0.024   2.87  2-- 1...gxh3 2.b4 {340}
        14   0.024   2.87  2t  1...gxh3 2.b4 {340}
        63   0.024   2.87  2.  1...gxh3 2.b4 {340}
        89   0.024   2.95  3t  1...gxh3 2.b4 Ke3 {340}
       175   0.025   2.95  3.  1...gxh3 2.b4 Ke3 {340}
       228   0.025   2.96  4t  1...gxh3 2.b4 Ke3 3.a5 {340}
       465   0.025   2.96  4.  1...gxh3 2.b4 Ke3 3.a5 {340}
       747   0.026   3.01  5t  1...gxh3 2.b4 Ke3 3.a5 Kd4 {340}
      1096   0.026   3.01  5.  1...gxh3 2.b4 Ke3 3.a5 Kd4 {340}
      1751   0.028   2.86  6t  1...gxh3 2.b4 Ke3 3.a5 Kd4 4.b5 {340}
      3414   0.030   2.86  6.  1...gxh3 2.b4 Ke3 3.a5 Kd4 4.b5 {340}
     10475   0.094   2.50  7t  1...gxh3 2.a5 Nd4 3.a6 Nb5 4.Kh2 Nc7 {340}
     18636   0.104   2.50  7.  1...gxh3 2.a5 Nd4 3.a6 Nb5 4.Kh2 Nc7 {340}
     26987   0.113   2.10  8-- 1...gxh3 2.a5 Nd4 3.a6 Nc6 4.Kh2 Nb8 5.a7 Ke2
                               {340}
     28383   0.116   1.70  8t  1...gxh3 2.a5 Nd4 3.a6 Nc6 4.Kh2 Na7 5.Kxh3
                               {260}
     38841   0.128   1.70  8.  1...gxh3 2.a5 Nd4 3.a6 Nc6 4.Kh2 Na7 5.Kxh3
                               {260}
     54222   0.212   1.82  9t  1...gxh3 2.a5 Ne5 3.a6 Nc6 4.Kh2H Ke3H 5.Kxh3H
                               Nd4H {260}
     74997   0.254   1.82  9.  1...gxh3 2.a5 Ne5 3.a6 Nc6 4.Kh2 Ke3 5.Kxh3 Nd4
                               {260}
    115990   0.429   2.29 10++ 1...gxh3 2.a5 Kg3 3.b4 Ne5 4.Kg1
    121380   0.483   3.64 10++ 1...gxh3 2.a5 Kg3 3.a6 Ne5 4.Kg1 Ng4 5.a7 Nf2
                               6.a8=QH h2+H 7.Kf1H h1=Q+H 8.Qxh1H Nxh1H {340}
    122413   0.491   3.64 10t  1...gxh3 2.a5 Kg3 3.a6H Ne5H 4.a7H Ng4H 5.a8=QH
                               Nf2+H 6.Kg1H h2+H 7.Kf1H {-581}
    142488   0.534   3.64 10.  1...gxh3 2.a5 Kg3 3.a6 Ne5 4.a7 Ng4 5.a8=Q Nf2+
                               6.Kg1 h2+ 7.Kf1 {-581}
    199023   1.269   3.64 11t  1...gxh3 2.a5 Kg3 3.a6 Ne5 4.a7 Ng4 5.a8=Q Nf2+
                               6.Kg1 h2+ 7.Kf1 h1=Q+ 8.Qxh1 Nxh1 {340}
    238489   1.497   3.64 11.  1...gxh3 2.a5 Kg3 3.a6 Ne5 4.a7 Ng4 5.a8=Q Nf2+
                               6.Kg1 h2+ 7.Kf1 h1=Q+ 8.Qxh1 Nxh1 {340}
    357490   1.784   3.64 12t  1...gxh3 2.a5 Kg3 3.a6 Ne5 4.a7 Ng4 5.a8=Q Nf2+
                               6.Kg1 h2+ 7.Kf1 h1=Q+ 8.Qxh1 Nxh1H {340}
    442373   2.140   3.64 12.  1...gxh3 2.a5 Kg3 3.a6 Ne5 4.a7 Ng4 5.a8=Q Nf2+
                               6.Kg1 h2+ 7.Kf1 h1=Q+ 8.Qxh1 Nxh1 {340}
    606391   3.431   3.64 13t  1...gxh3 2.a5 Kg3 3.a6 Ne5 4.a7 Ng4 5.a8=Q Nf2+
                               6.Kg1 h2+ 7.Kf1 h1=Q+ 8.Qxh1 Nxh1 {340}
    817296   4.200   3.64 13.  1...gxh3 2.a5 Kg3 3.a6 Ne5 4.a7 Ng4 5.a8=Q Nf2+
                               6.Kg1 h2+ 7.Kf1 h1=Q+ 8.Qxh1 Nxh1 {340}
   1073242   5.397   3.62 14t  1...gxh3 2.a5 Kg3 3.a6 Ne5 4.a7 Ng4 5.a8=Q Nf2+
                               6.Kg1 h2+ 7.Kf1 h1=Q+ 8.Qxh1 Nxh1 9.b4 h4 10.b5
                               h3 {340}
   1815780   7.733   3.63 14t+ 1...Kf1 2.Nf4 g3 3.b4
   1844420   7.844   4.04 14++ 1...Kf1 2.Ng1
   1963600   8.148   5.04 14++ 1...Kf1 2.a5 g3 3.Nf4 Ne5 4.Ne2 g2+ 5.Kh2 Nf3+
                               6.Kg3 Nd4 7.Kf4 Nxe2+ 8.Ke4
   2033796   8.325  10.04 14++ 1...Kf1 2.Nf4 h4 3.Ng2 g3 4.Ne3+ Ke2 5.Kg2 Ne1+
                               6.Kh3 Kxe3 7.a5 g2 8.b4 g1=Q 9.b5
   2200597   8.749  10.53 14t  1...Kf1 2.Nf4 h4 3.Ng2 g3 4.Ne3+ Ke2 5.Kg2 Ne1+
                               6.Kh3 Kxe3 7.b4 g2 8.Kh2 h3 9.Kxh3 g1=QH {1181}
   2200601   8.755  10.53 14.  1...Kf1 2.Nf4 h4 3.Ng2 g3 4.Ne3+ Ke2 5.Kg2 Ne1+
                               6.Kh3 Kxe3 7.b4 g2 8.Kh2 h3 9.Kxh3 g1=Q {1181}
   2581697   9.745  10.57 15t  1...Kf1 2.Nf4 h4 3.Nd5 g3 4.Ne3+ Ke2 5.Kg2H
                               Ne1+H 6.Kh3H Kxe3H 7.b4H g2H 8.a5H g1=QH
                               9.Kxh4H {1181}
   3648898  13.934  10.57 15.  1...Kf1 2.Nf4 h4 3.Nd5 g3 4.Ne3+ Ke2 5.Kg2 Ne1+
                               6.Kh3 Kxe3 7.b4 g2 8.a5 g1=Q 9.Kxh4 {1181}
   3804637  14.334  10.97 16++ 1...Kf1 2.Nf4 h4 3.Nd5 g3 4.Ne3+ Ke2 5.Kg2 Ne1+
                               6.Kh3 Kxe3 7.Kxh4 g2 8.Kh5 g1=Q 9.Kh6 Nd3 10.Kh7
   3826550  14.393  11.97 16++ 1...Kf1 2.Nf4 h4 3.Nd5 g3 4.Ne3+ Ke2 5.Kg2 Ne1+
                               6.Kh3 Kxe3 7.Kg4 g2 8.Kh3 g1=Q 9.Kxh4 Qh2+
                               10.Kg5H Qxb2H 11.a5H {1261}
   4418962  16.053  12.01 16t  1...Kf1 2.Nf4 h4 3.Nd5 g3 4.Ne3+ Ke2 5.Kg2 Ne1+
                               6.Kh3 Kxe3 7.a5H Ke4H 8.a6H g2H 9.a7H g1=QH
                               10.a8=Q+H Kf4H 11.Qf8+H Ke4H {340}
   4725577  17.205  12.02 16t+ 1...gxh3 2.a5 Kg3 3.b3 Ne5 4.Kg1
   6204954  21.179  20.26 16++ 1...gxh3 2.a5 Kg3 3.a6 Nh2 4.a7 Ng4 5.Kg1 h2+
                               6.Kf1 h1=Q+ 7.Ke2 h4 8.b4 h3 9.b5 h2 10.b6 Qe4+
                               11.Kd2 h1=Q {2182}
   6849489  22.677  Mat23 16t  1...gxh3 2.a5 Kg3 3.a6 Ne5 4.a7 Nd3 5.a8=Q Nf2+
                               6.Kg1 h2+ 7.Kf1 h1=Q+ 8.Qxh1 Nxh1 {EGTB} {340}
   8805239  28.330  Mat23 16.  1...gxh3 2.a5 Kg3 3.a6 Ne5 4.a7 Nd3 5.a8=Q Nf2+
                               6.Kg1 h2+ 7.Kf1 h1=Q+ 8.Qxh1 Nxh1 {EGTB} {340}
  10742106  33.092  Mat23 17t  1...gxh3 2.a5 Kg3 3.a6 Ne5 4.a7 Nd3 5.a8=Q Nf2+
                               6.Kg1 h2+ 7.Kf1 h1=Q+ 8.Qxh1 Nxh1 {EGTB} {340}
  15636655  48.583  Mat23 17.  1...gxh3 2.a5 Kg3 3.a6 Ne5 4.a7 Nd3 5.a8=Q Nf2+
                               6.Kg1 h2+ 7.Kf1 h1=Q+ 8.Qxh1 Nxh1 {EGTB} {340}
  19013727  55.807  Mat23 18t  1...gxh3 2.a5 Kg3 3.a6 Ne5 4.a7 Nd3 5.a8=Q Nf2+
                               6.Kg1 h2+ 7.Kf1 h1=Q+ 8.Qxh1 Nxh1 {EGTB} {340}
  34737861  1:32.3  Mat23 18.  1...gxh3 2.a5 Kg3 3.a6 Ne5 4.a7 Nd3 5.a8=Q Nf2+
                               6.Kg1 h2+ 7.Kf1 h1=Q+ 8.Qxh1 Nxh1 {EGTB} {340}
  35849404  1:36.4  Mat23 19t  1...gxh3 2.a5 Kg3 3.a6 Ne5 4.a7 Nd3 5.a8=Q Nf2+
                               6.Kg1 h2+ 7.Kf1 h1=Q+ 8.Qxh1 Nxh1 {EGTB} {340}

The king move (on the other hand) prevents the other side from queening, but
takes longer to win.

Pepito> setboard 8/8/8/7p/P5p1/5n1N/1P3k2/7K b - -
Pepito> go
 5   323    88      925  g4xh3 b4 Kf2-e3 b5 Ke3-d4
 5   323    89     1660  g4xh3 b4 Kf2-e3 b5 Ke3-d4
 6   290    90     5389  g4xh3 ?? b4 Kf2-e3 b5 Ke3-d4
 6   276    90     8191  g4xh3 a5 Nf3-e5 a6 Ne5-c4 a7 Nc4-b6
 6   276    91    10249  g4xh3 a5 Nf3-e5 a6 Ne5-c4 a7 Nc4-b6
 7   271    92    15126  g4xh3 a5 Nf3-e5 a6 Ne5-c6 Kh1-h2 Nc6-b4
 7   271    93    20562  g4xh3 a5 Nf3-e5 a6 Ne5-c6 Kh1-h2 Nc6-b4
 8   238    98    50445  g4xh3 ?? a5 Nf3-e5 a6 Ne5-c6 Kh1-h2 Nc6-b4
 8   192   101    66427  g4xh3 a5 Nf3-e5 a6 Ne5-c6 Kh1-h2 Kf2-e3 Kh2xh3
 8   192   106    96551  g4xh3 a5 Nf3-e5 a6 Ne5-c6 Kh1-h2 Kf2-e3 Kh2xh3
 9   225   109   118114  g4xh3 !!
 9   325   111   125851  g4xh3 !!
 9   358   112   134975  g4xh3 a5 Kf2-g3 a6 Nf3-e1 a7 Ne1-d3 a8=Q Nd3-f2 Kh1-g1
h2 Kg1-f1 h1=Q Qa8xh1 Nf2xh1
 9   358   112   136770  g4xh3 a5 Kf2-g3 a6 Nf3-e1 a7 Ne1-d3 a8=Q Nd3-f2 Kh1-g1
h2 Kg1-f1 h1=Q Qa8xh1 Nf2xh1
10   330   118   179160  g4xh3 a5 Kf2-g3 a6 Nf3-e1 a7 Ne1-d3 a8=Q Nd3-f2 Kh1-g1
h2 Kg1-f1 h1=Q Qa8xh1 Nf2xh1 b4
10   330   119   182641  g4xh3 a5 Kf2-g3 a6 Nf3-e1 a7 Ne1-d3 a8=Q Nd3-f2 Kh1-g1
h2 Kg1-f1 h1=Q Qa8xh1 Nf2xh1 b4
11   331   131   267347  g4xh3 a5 Kf2-g3 a6 Nf3-e1 a7 Ne1-d3 a8=Q Nd3-f2 Kh1-g1
h2 Kg1-f1 h1=Q Qa8xh1 Nf2xh1 b4 h4 b5
11   331   132   273484  g4xh3 a5 Kf2-g3 a6 Nf3-e1 a7 Ne1-d3 a8=Q Nd3-f2 Kh1-g1
h2 Kg1-f1 h1=Q Qa8xh1 Nf2xh1 b4 h4 b5
12   364   133   274482  g4xh3 !!
12   383   151   417628  g4xh3 a5 Kf2-g3 a6 Nf3-e1 a7 Ne1-d3 a8=Q Nd3-f2 Kh1-g1
h2 Kg1-f1 h1=Q Qa8xh1 Nf2xh1 Kf1-g1 Nh1-f2 b4 h4
12   383   154   431848  g4xh3 a5 Kf2-g3 a6 Nf3-e1 a7 Ne1-d3 a8=Q Nd3-f2 Kh1-g1
h2 Kg1-f1 h1=Q Qa8xh1 Nf2xh1 Kf1-g1 Nh1-f2 b4 h4
13   360   191   719610  g4xh3 a5 Kf2-g3 a6 Nf3-e1 a7 Ne1-d3 a8=Q Nd3-f2 Kh1-g1
h2 Kg1-f1 h1=Q Qa8xh1 Nf2xh1 Kf1-g1 Nh1-f2 b4 Nf2-h3 Kg1-f1 Nh3-f4
13   416   227   930696  Kf2-f1 !!
13   516   230   947300  Kf2-f1 !!
13   565   243  1023071  Kf2-f1 Nh3-f4 g3 Nf4-g2 h4 Ng2-e3 Kf1-e2 Kh1-g2 Nf3-e1
Kg2-h1 h3 Ne3-g2 Ne1xg2 Kh1-g1 Ng2-e3
13   565   245  1033843  Kf2-f1 Nh3-f4 g3 Nf4-g2 h4 Ng2-e3 Kf1-e2 Kh1-g2 Nf3-e1
Kg2-h1 h3 Ne3-g2 Ne1xg2 Kh1-g1 Ng2-e3
14   598   251  1065855  Kf2-f1 !!
14   698   255  1086971  Kf2-f1 !!
14  1076   299  1314316  Kf2-f1 Nh3-f4 g3 Nf4-g2 h4 Ng2-e3 Kf1-e2 Kh1-g2 Nf3-e1
Kg2-h3 Ke2xe3 Kh3xh4 g2 b4 Ke3-f2 b5 Ne1-f3 Kh4-g4
14  1076   354  1737434  Kf2-f1 Nh3-f4 g3 Nf4-g2 h4 Ng2-e3 Kf1-e2 Kh1-g2 Nf3-e1
Kg2-h3 Ke2xe3 Kh3xh4 g2 b4 Ke3-f2 b5 Ne1-f3 Kh4-g4
15  1109   378  1872028  Kf2-f1 !!
15  1130   396  1972993  Kf2-f1 Nh3-f4 g3 Nf4-g2 h4 Ng2-e3 Kf1-e2 Kh1-g2 Nf3-e1
Kg2-h3 Ke2xe3 Kh3xh4 g2 b3 Ne1-f3 Kh4-h3 g1=Q a5 Qg1-b1 a6 Qb1xb3
15  1139   475  2593058  g4xh3 a5 Kf2-g3 a6 Nf3-e1 a7 Ne1-d3 a8=Q Nd3-f2 Kh1-g1
h2 Kg1-f1 h1=Q Qa8xh1 Nf2xh1 b4 Kg3-h2 b5 h4 b6 Nh1-g3 Kf1-f2 h3
15  1139   510  2794169  g4xh3 a5 Kf2-g3 a6 Nf3-e1 a7 Ne1-d3 a8=Q Nd3-f2 Kh1-g1
h2 Kg1-f1 h1=Q Qa8xh1 Nf2xh1 b4 Kg3-h2 b5 h4 b6 Nh1-g3 Kf1-f2 h3
16  1166   786  4682277  Kf2-f1 Nh3-f4 g3 Nf4-g2 h4 Ng2-e3 Kf1-e2 Kh1-g2 Ke2xe3
b3 Nf3-e1 Kg2-h3 g2 Kh3xh4 g1=Q
16  1166   819  4900530  Kf2-f1 Nh3-f4 g3 Nf4-g2 h4 Ng2-e3 Kf1-e2 Kh1-g2 Ke2xe3
b3 Nf3-e1 Kg2-h3 g2 Kh3xh4 g1=Q
17  1170  1214  7126158  Kf2-f1 Nh3-f4 g3 Nf4-g2 h4 Ng2-e3 Kf1-e2 Kh1-g2 Ke2xe3
b3 Nf3-e1 Kg2-h3 g2 Kh3xh4 Ne1-f3 Kh4-h5 g1=Q Kh5-h6 Ke3-f4 b4 Qg1-b6 Kh6-g7
Qb6xb4
17  1170  1463  8979679  Kf2-f1 Nh3-f4 g3 Nf4-g2 h4 Ng2-e3 Kf1-e2 Kh1-g2 Ke2xe3
b3 Nf3-e1 Kg2-h3 g2 Kh3xh4 Ne1-f3 Kh4-h5 g1=Q Kh5-h6 Ke3-f4 b4 Qg1-b6 Kh6-g7
Qb6xb4
18  1203  1562  9550183  Kf2-f1 !!
18  1303  1715 10410818  Kf2-f1 !!
18  2138  5178 29976684  Kf2-f1 Nh3-f4 g3 Nf4-g2 h4 Ng2-e3 Kf1-e2 Kh1-g2 Ke2xe3
b4 Nf3-e1 Kg2-h3 g2 Kh3-g4 g1=Q Kg4-f5 h3 b5 h2 Kf5-f6 Qg1-g2 Kf6-e5 Qg2-e4
Ke5-d6 Qe4xa4
18  2138  5716 33577612  Kf2-f1 Nh3-f4 g3 Nf4-g2 h4 Ng2-e3 Kf1-e2 Kh1-g2 Ke2xe3
b4 Nf3-e1 Kg2-h3 g2 Kh3-g4 g1=Q Kg4-f5 h3 b5 h2 Kf5-f6 Qg1-g2 Kf6-e5 Qg2-e4
Ke5-d6 Qe4xa4
19  2171  6038 35376094  Kf2-f1 !!
19  2198 12234 72515110  Kf2-f1 Nh3-f4 g3 Nf4-g2 h4 Ng2-e3 Kf1-e2 Kh1-g2 Ke2xe3
Kg2-h3 Ke3-f2 Kh3-g4 g2 Kg4-f5 g1=Q Kf5-e6 Qg1-g4 Ke6-f6 Qg4xa4 Kf6-f5 Qa4-c2
Kf5-f4 Kf2-g2
19  2198 14206 84441737  Kf2-f1 Nh3-f4 g3 Nf4-g2 h4 Ng2-e3 Kf1-e2 Kh1-g2 Ke2xe3
Kg2-h3 Ke3-f2 Kh3-g4 g2 Kg4-f5 g1=Q Kf5-e6 Qg1-g4 Ke6-f6 Qg4xa4 Kf6-f5 Qa4-c2
Kf5-f4 Kf2-g2




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