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Subject: Re: Queen sacrifice for position---will your program sac the Queen? deep?

Author: Matthias Gemuh

Date: 00:44:41 12/09/01

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On December 08, 2001 at 20:28:18, K. Burcham wrote:

>
>
>17...Nxg5
>will your program play Nxg5 and lose the queen?
>
> [D] r4rk1/1bp3pp/1pn1q3/p2p1pN1/3Pn3/PPN1P1P1/2Q2PBP/R1R3K1 b - -
>
>this is a very interesting line to study.
>so far i am very fascinated with this queen sac.
>
>at this time it is hard for me to see what the program
>thinks it was getting for the queen sacrifice.
>the sacrifice did not pay back for the queen until many moves later,
>which the program could not see at the time.
>since this was not for material, then what?
>did knowledge drive this play?
>if you answer yes, then could you explain blacks advantage after
>20...Nxe6. because in this position the program could not see the
>win at all. here is the position after the queen loss.
>
> [D] r4rk1/1bp3pp/1p2n3/p4p2/8/PPN1PnP1/2Q2P1P/R1R4K w - -
>
>
>if you  play through the line, your program will finally score + for black after
>several moves, after losing its queen.
>i will study this line some more, but so far this seems to be
>a fantastical queen sacrifice, losing material but gaining the position,
>for the win.
>
>after 43.Nc3   black is up 5+ points and game is over for white
>
> [D] 4r1k1/6p1/7p/pb5P/1Pp5/P1Nn1r2/2KR4/Q7 b - -
>
>17... Nxg5  18. Bxd5  Nf3+  19. Kh1  Ncxd4 20. Bxe6+  Nxe6
>21. Qa2  Nd2+ 22. Kg1  Ng5  23. f3 Ndxf3+  24. Kf1  Rf7
>25. Rd1  Ne5 26. h4  Ngf3  27. Ke2  Ng4  28. Nd5 Nfe5
>29. Rd4 c5 30. Rd2 Re8  31. h5  h6  32. Nxb6  Ba6+
>33. Kd1  Nxe3+  34. Kc1  f4 35. gxf4 Rxf4 36. Kb2 Nf1
>37. Nd5 Rf3  38. Rxf1  Rxf1 39. Kc3  Rf3+  40. Kc2  c4
>41. b4  Nd3  42. Qa1 Bb5 43. Nc3
>
>kburcham



HyLogicChess wants to play:
[1] (-1.08)  1 ...Nxg5 (00h:00m:00s)
[2] (-1.08)  1 ...Nxg5 2.Bxd5 (00h:00m:00s)
[3] (-0.94)  1 ...Nxg5 2.Bxd5 Nh3 (00h:00m:00s)
[4] (-1.20)  1 ...Nxg5 2.Bxd5 Nh3 3.Kf1 (00h:00m:00s)
[5] (1.04)  1 ...Qd6 2.Ngxe4 fxe4 3.Ncxe4 dxe4 (00h:00m:47s)
[6] (1.04)  1 ...Qd6 2.Ngxe4 fxe4 3.Ncxe4 dxe4 4.Bxe4 (00h:02m:06s)
[7] (1.52)  1 ...Qd6 2.Nxd5 Nxg5 3.Nxc7 Qxc7 4.Qc4 Rf7 (00h:05m:25s)

Regards,
Matthias.













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