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Subject: Re: What's your point?

Author: Jorge Pichard

Date: 16:38:28 12/09/01

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On December 09, 2001 at 18:28:12, pavel wrote:

>On December 09, 2001 at 18:03:40, Jorge Pichard wrote:
>
>>On December 09, 2001 at 16:24:57, Marc van Hal wrote:
>>
>>>On December 09, 2001 at 15:34:10, Christophe Theron wrote:
>>>
>>>>On December 09, 2001 at 14:22:02, Jorge Pichard wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Here is one of my most recent match at Game in 1 Hour per side against Novag
>>>>>Turquoise USCF Estimated rating of 2294. The match is still running with a small
>>>>>advantage for Novag.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Date: 9/12/2001
>>>>>White: Novag Turquoise H8 RISC 26.6 MHz USCF 2294
>>>>>Black: Gambit Tiger 14.6 Handspring 33 MHz (Not Overclocked)
>>>>>Opening: C43 Petrov: Modern Attack, Symmetrical Variation
>>>>>
>>>>>1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nf6 3. d4 Nxe4 4. Bd3 d5 5. Nxe5 Nd7 6. Qe2 Nxe5 7. Bxe4 dxe4 8.
>>>>>Qxe4 Bd6 9. f4 Bf5 10. Qxf5 Nc6 11. Qe4+ Qe7 12. Qxe7+ Nxe7 13. Kf2 O-O-O 14.
>>>>>Nc3 Bb4 15. Na4 b5 16. a3 Ba5 17. Nc3 c6 18. Ne2 Rhe8 19. a4 b4 20. Re1 Bb6 21.
>>>>>c3 Nd5 22. a5 Bc7 23. Bd2 bxc3 24. bxc3 Re4
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>I don't understand what your point is. This opening is not losing. So why do you
>>>>give this game as an argument for a bigger opening book?
>>>>
>>>>Would a bigger opening book help here?
>>>>
>>>>    Christophe
>>
>>
>>  No a bigger opening book in this case doesn't help, but CT 14.6 for palm in
>>most of the games that I matched against Novag Turquoise, seems to barely
>>managed to come out of the opening stage fighting to equalize and this should
>>NOT be the case, since the opening for the Novag was prepared 5 years ago. Also
>>you can not compare the merely 8,000 moves for CT 14.6 against any of the
>>Novag Computers openings. It is clear that CT 14.6 is a better program than
>>WChess was 5 Years ago. And using comparable hardware such as in this case,
>>there should be an enormous rating difference. So clearly the simple advantage
>>of a better program is NOT sufficient. Therefore, you need to catch up in the
>>area where the others are leading such as Pocket Fritz.
>>
>>
>>Pichard
>
>what do you expect on a palm?
>
>pavs

Please don't get me wrong CT 14.6 for Palm on my Handspring is beating Novag
Turquoise about 55% of the time, but the % could even be higher by enlarging and
modifying the Opening Book.
>
>
>
>>>
>>>
>>>I don't know if there is a problem at all by the openingsbook
>>>But still I have 1 question is the original Tiger openingsbook to big for a
>>>handheld?
>>>
>>>And you must not look if it can be  draw out of an openingsbook
>>>You have to use the openingsbook to win!
>>>
>>>In a human point of vieuw you have to look at this at openingsbooks
>>>espacialy from the White side because of the extra tempo
>>>If a position after the opening ends with = the opening is a failure.
>>>While from the Black side if after the opening the position is = the opening is
>>>a sucses everything it has more is good and should have a higher valeu of
>>>contempt it most of the time also contributes why certain moves should not be
>>>played by one side
>>>As long if only the 100% line is folowed (though this is not always the case
>>>after folowing for example the deepfritz book
>>>Judit Polgar tried to win her advanced chess match in this way too.)
>>>Folowing the 50% line then is nonsens.
>>>
>>>Regards Marc van Hal



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