Author: pavel
Date: 19:57:37 12/09/01
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On December 09, 2001 at 19:38:28, Jorge Pichard wrote: >On December 09, 2001 at 18:28:12, pavel wrote: > >>On December 09, 2001 at 18:03:40, Jorge Pichard wrote: >> >>>On December 09, 2001 at 16:24:57, Marc van Hal wrote: >>> >>>>On December 09, 2001 at 15:34:10, Christophe Theron wrote: >>>> >>>>>On December 09, 2001 at 14:22:02, Jorge Pichard wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>Here is one of my most recent match at Game in 1 Hour per side against Novag >>>>>>Turquoise USCF Estimated rating of 2294. The match is still running with a small >>>>>>advantage for Novag. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>Date: 9/12/2001 >>>>>>White: Novag Turquoise H8 RISC 26.6 MHz USCF 2294 >>>>>>Black: Gambit Tiger 14.6 Handspring 33 MHz (Not Overclocked) >>>>>>Opening: C43 Petrov: Modern Attack, Symmetrical Variation >>>>>> >>>>>>1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nf6 3. d4 Nxe4 4. Bd3 d5 5. Nxe5 Nd7 6. Qe2 Nxe5 7. Bxe4 dxe4 8. >>>>>>Qxe4 Bd6 9. f4 Bf5 10. Qxf5 Nc6 11. Qe4+ Qe7 12. Qxe7+ Nxe7 13. Kf2 O-O-O 14. >>>>>>Nc3 Bb4 15. Na4 b5 16. a3 Ba5 17. Nc3 c6 18. Ne2 Rhe8 19. a4 b4 20. Re1 Bb6 21. >>>>>>c3 Nd5 22. a5 Bc7 23. Bd2 bxc3 24. bxc3 Re4 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>I don't understand what your point is. This opening is not losing. So why do you >>>>>give this game as an argument for a bigger opening book? >>>>> >>>>>Would a bigger opening book help here? >>>>> >>>>> Christophe >>> >>> >>> No a bigger opening book in this case doesn't help, but CT 14.6 for palm in >>>most of the games that I matched against Novag Turquoise, seems to barely >>>managed to come out of the opening stage fighting to equalize and this should >>>NOT be the case, since the opening for the Novag was prepared 5 years ago. Also >>>you can not compare the merely 8,000 moves for CT 14.6 against any of the >>>Novag Computers openings. It is clear that CT 14.6 is a better program than >>>WChess was 5 Years ago. And using comparable hardware such as in this case, >>>there should be an enormous rating difference. So clearly the simple advantage >>>of a better program is NOT sufficient. Therefore, you need to catch up in the >>>area where the others are leading such as Pocket Fritz. >>> >>> >>>Pichard >> >>what do you expect on a palm? >> >>pavs > >Please don't get me wrong CT 14.6 for Palm on my Handspring is beating Novag >Turquoise about 55% of the time, but the % could even be higher by enlarging and >modifying the Opening Book. having large opening book doesnt necessarily mean better performance, its the quality of book that matters. If you think that the book has several bad lines in it and causes the program to play inferior chess, then there is a reason to complain. if you are planning to sharpen your opening skill, then maybe you should stick with pc. You cant expect everything on palm, the way it is in pc; atleast for the time being. >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >>>>I don't know if there is a problem at all by the openingsbook >>>>But still I have 1 question is the original Tiger openingsbook to big for a >>>>handheld? >>>> >>>>And you must not look if it can be draw out of an openingsbook >>>>You have to use the openingsbook to win! >>>> >>>>In a human point of vieuw you have to look at this at openingsbooks >>>>espacialy from the White side because of the extra tempo >>>>If a position after the opening ends with = the opening is a failure. >>>>While from the Black side if after the opening the position is = the opening is >>>>a sucses everything it has more is good and should have a higher valeu of >>>>contempt it most of the time also contributes why certain moves should not be >>>>played by one side >>>>As long if only the 100% line is folowed (though this is not always the case >>>>after folowing for example the deepfritz book >>>>Judit Polgar tried to win her advanced chess match in this way too.) >>>>Folowing the 50% line then is nonsens. >>>> >>>>Regards Marc van Hal
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