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Subject: Re: Correction: Re: Bitboard question

Author: Vincent Diepeveen

Date: 07:24:40 12/10/01

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On December 10, 2001 at 10:21:08, Bas Hamstra wrote:

>On December 10, 2001 at 10:16:25, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:
>
>>On December 10, 2001 at 08:05:42, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:
>>
>>>On December 10, 2001 at 06:02:46, Bas Hamstra wrote:
>>>
>>>>On December 10, 2001 at 04:13:05, Andrew Dados wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On December 10, 2001 at 03:40:53, Russell Reagan wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>At http://www.ast.cam.ac.uk/~cmf/chess/theory.html it says:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"Most top chess programs these days use bitboards."
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Is this true?
>>>>>
>>>>>No. The opposite is true.
>>>>>
>>>>>non bitboard programs:
>>>>>commercial: tiger, fritz, junior, diep, rebel, genius, nimzo
>>>>>amateur: most
>>>>>ferret non-bitboard, too.
>>>>>
>>>>>bitboard programs: afik none commercial. crafty, insomniac and few more.
>>>>>
>>>>>then to some extend all programs may use bitboards especially to carry around
>>>>>pawn structure info.
>>>>>
>>>>>-Andrew-
>>>>
>>>>Correction: Fritz uses bitboards. Non rotated.
>>>>
>>>>Bas.
>>>
>>>No it doesn't.
>>
>>Correction, i got email from Frans his official statement nowadays
>>is that he IS using bitboards.
>
>Not only that, but he even claims BB datastructure is not slower. Quite
>something from mr. efficiency, eh?
>
>Bas.

I wonder why Fritz is slower on the K7 than on the P3.

On my paper bitboards should be much faster on K7 as you can
do BSF/BSR to a 64 bits register without branch mispredictions,
and i don't see how to do that on the P3.

Best regards,
Vincent



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