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Subject: Re: Correction: Re: Bitboard question

Author: Bas Hamstra

Date: 07:33:57 12/10/01

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On December 10, 2001 at 10:24:40, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:

>On December 10, 2001 at 10:21:08, Bas Hamstra wrote:
>
>>On December 10, 2001 at 10:16:25, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:
>>
>>>On December 10, 2001 at 08:05:42, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:
>>>
>>>>On December 10, 2001 at 06:02:46, Bas Hamstra wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On December 10, 2001 at 04:13:05, Andrew Dados wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On December 10, 2001 at 03:40:53, Russell Reagan wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>At http://www.ast.cam.ac.uk/~cmf/chess/theory.html it says:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"Most top chess programs these days use bitboards."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Is this true?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>No. The opposite is true.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>non bitboard programs:
>>>>>>commercial: tiger, fritz, junior, diep, rebel, genius, nimzo
>>>>>>amateur: most
>>>>>>ferret non-bitboard, too.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>bitboard programs: afik none commercial. crafty, insomniac and few more.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>then to some extend all programs may use bitboards especially to carry around
>>>>>>pawn structure info.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>-Andrew-
>>>>>
>>>>>Correction: Fritz uses bitboards. Non rotated.
>>>>>
>>>>>Bas.
>>>>
>>>>No it doesn't.
>>>
>>>Correction, i got email from Frans his official statement nowadays
>>>is that he IS using bitboards.
>>
>>Not only that, but he even claims BB datastructure is not slower. Quite
>>something from mr. efficiency, eh?
>>
>>Bas.
>
>I wonder why Fritz is slower on the K7 than on the P3.
>
>On my paper bitboards should be much faster on K7 as you can
>do BSF/BSR to a 64 bits register without branch mispredictions,
>and i don't see how to do that on the P3.
>
>Best regards,
>Vincent

I don't know, maybe the p3 handles the mmx assembly better?












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