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Subject: Re: position, avoid move

Author: Miguel A. Ballicora

Date: 16:47:03 12/11/01

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On December 11, 2001 at 18:31:14, Andrew Williams wrote:

>On December 11, 2001 at 10:59:55, Will Singleton wrote:
>
>>[D]4k2r/1nrqbppp/p3b3/1pppP1NQ/8/1NP1B2P/PP3PP1/R4RK1 w k - 0 1
>>
>>Most programs don't immediately see that Nxh7 puts the knight in a bad spot.
>>Can this problem be addressed by root analysis?
>>
>>(Beowulf might be doing something like that, since it never considers Nxh7.)
>>
>>Will
>
>PM doesn't do any root analysis or anything like that. It loses interest
>in Nxh7 after 17 seconds on my Athlon 1200. Too long to avoid it in ICC
>blitz games, I fear.
>
>
>Andrew

It is very interesting how different engines have different personalities.

Gaviota does not consider Nxh7 from the beginning. It only considers it briefly
at ply 8 and abandon the idea immediately. If you ask me why does not consider
that... I have no idea because I have no special code for it. It must be
mobility. Probably mobility of the queen (that has to remain tied)

Regards,
Miguel

PIII 800 mhz:

+-----------------+
| . . . . k . . r |
| . n r q b x x x |
| x . . . b . . . |
| . x x x o . N Q |
| . . . . . . . . |
| . N o . B . . o |
| o o . . . o o . |
| R . . . . R K . |
+-----------------+

analyze
       103   1:      0.0    +1.33  Qh5-e2
      1455   2       0.0      :-(
      2233   2:      0.0    +0.84  f2-f4    h7-h6
      4590   3:      0.1    +0.93  Qh5-e2   Be6-f5   h3-h4    Be7xg5
                                   Be3xg5
     15380   4:      0.2    +0.71  Qh5-e2   Be6-f5   h3-h4    o-o
     20608   5       0.3    +0.70  Qh5-e2   Be6-f5   g2-g4    Be7xg5
                                   Be3xg5   h7-h6
     23960   5       0.3    +0.71  h3-h4    h7-h6    Ng5xe6   Qd7xe6
                                   Ra1-d1
     34868   5       0.4    +0.79  Ra1-c1   h7-h6    Ng5xe6   Qd7xe6
                                   Rc1-d1
     42410   5       0.5    +0.87  Kg1-h2   h7-h6    Ng5xe6   Qd7xe6
                                   Ra1-d1
     47911   5       0.6    +0.88  Be3-f4   Be7xg5   Bf4xg5   d5-d4
                                   Qh5-e2   d4xc3    b2xc3
     57628   5:      0.7    +0.88  Be3-f4   Be7xg5   Bf4xg5   d5-d4
                                   Qh5-e2   d4xc3    b2xc3
     66097   6       0.8    +0.54  Be3-f4   Be7xg5   Bf4xg5   Be6-f5
                                   Qh5-e2   o-o
     75803   6       0.9    +0.61  Kg1-h2   Be7xg5   Be3xg5   Be6-f5
                                   Qh5-e2   o-o      <EMPTY>  <-transp
     89201   6       1.0    +0.62  Qh5-e2   Be6-f5   g2-g4    Be7xg5
                                   Be3xg5   h7-h6    Bg5xh6   Rh8xh6
                                   g4xf5    Qd7xf5
    104838   6       1.2    +0.74  f2-f4    Be7xg5   Qh5xg5   g7-g6
                                   Qg5-h4   Be6-f5
    132654   6:      1.5    +0.74  f2-f4    Be7xg5   Qh5xg5   g7-g6
                                   Qg5-h4   Be6-f5
    199952   7       2.3    +0.89  f2-f4    h7-h6    Ng5xe6   Qd7xe6
                                   Qh5-f3   c5-c4    Nb3-d4
    311088   7:      3.4    +0.89  f2-f4    h7-h6    Ng5xe6   Qd7xe6
                                   Qh5-f3   c5-c4    Nb3-d4
    386190   8       4.1    +0.68  f2-f4    Be7xg5   Qh5xg5   g7-g6
                                   g2-g4    Qd7-c6   f4-f5    h7-h6
    835330   8       9.0    +0.84  Ng5xh7   g7-g6    Qh5-h6   d5-d4
                                   Qh6-g7   Rh8xh7   Qg7xh7   d4xe3
                                   f2xe3
    886672   8:      9.4    +0.84  Ng5xh7   g7-g6    Qh5-h6   d5-d4
                                   Qh6-g7   Rh8xh7   Qg7xh7   d4xe3
                                   f2xe3
   1399397   9      14.9    +0.52  Ng5xh7   Ke8-d8   Be3-g5   Kd8-c8
                                   Bg5xe7   Qd7xe7   Ra1-d1   Kc8-b8
                                   Rd1-d3
   1636668   9      17.4    +0.80  f2-f4    Be7xg5   Qh5xg5   g7-g6
                                   Qg5-h4   o-o      Qh4-f2   c5-c4
                                   Nb3-c5
   2603848   9:     27.1    +0.80  f2-f4    Be7xg5   Qh5xg5   g7-g6
                                   Qg5-h4   o-o      Qh4-f2   c5-c4
                                   Nb3-c5
   3608298  10      37.7    +0.82  f2-f4    Be7xg5   Qh5xg5   g7-g6
                                   g2-g4    d5-d4    c3xd4    Be6-c4
                                   d4xc5    Bc4xf1   Ra1xf1
   5105261  10:     52.0    +0.82  f2-f4    Be7xg5   Qh5xg5   g7-g6
                                   g2-g4    d5-d4    c3xd4    Be6-c4
                                   d4xc5    Bc4xf1   Ra1xf1
   8118700  11      84.2    +0.68  f2-f4    g7-g6    Qh5-h6   Be7-f8
                                   Qh6-h4   Bf8-e7   Ra1-d1   Be7xg5
                                   f4xg5    c5-c4    Nb3-d4



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