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Subject: Re: Programmer vs Program strength

Author: Vincent Diepeveen

Date: 04:10:37 06/08/98

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On June 05, 1998 at 20:25:15, Will Singleton wrote:

>
>>On June 05, 1998 at 11:14:24, Dan Homan wrote:
>>
>>I'll log EXchess onto FICS tonight.  I should have an account
>>set up on ICC soon.  (I've set it up, but I am just waiting for the
>>admin to register it as a free computer account.)  I was waiting
>>until I could afford a fast machine, but I figure that will be
>>a long way away....
>>
>> - Dan
>>
>
>Yes, ICC does have slightly more action.  The program is hardly ever
>idle, plays almost continuously.  Good competition too, though the
>ratings are inflated relative to fics.
>
>Will

Are they really inflated, considering that at icc the average
timecontrol of
a game is way faster?

At fics 2 12 is normal.
At icc 3 0 is normal (although i prefer 3 1 or 5 0 myself).

That explains it.

Even at 5 3 against a program you make less chance than at 2 12,
where 5 3 is normal time control to play against a program and
at fics 2 12.

Also at icc way faster hardware and way better players are there.
I don't play at fics myself because of lack of playing strength.

I'm rated 2444 (diepeveen account)
myself btw right now, which is way below my TPR
in normal blitz event in for example Utrecht where i got over 2500
because i got 12 out of 19 against masses of IM's and GM's,
so i'm underrated at ICC.

Furthermore there is a beautiful interface at icc for chessplayers
called
blitzin. This is way better than good old winboard/xboard or other
interfaces.

This all together explains why programs at icc are way higher rated,
unless there are some faults in it, because then there are always
players
who make good use out of it.

Like the offering draw at move 1 of Diep, which is a major pain, just
like
forfeiting in drawn positions around move 130.
Nearly all accept that draw offer.

At FICS they would miss it, as winboard doesn't clearly show the
drawoffer.
Not to talk about xboard.

For my chessprogram winboard however is a great invention.

Thanks Tim!

Greetings,
Vincent






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