Author: Djordje Vidanovic
Date: 06:36:13 06/08/98
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On June 08, 1998 at 07:10:37, Vincent Diepeveen wrote: > >Are they really inflated, considering that at icc the average >timecontrol of >a game is way faster? > >At fics 2 12 is normal. >At icc 3 0 is normal (although i prefer 3 1 or 5 0 myself). > >That explains it. > >Even at 5 3 against a program you make less chance than at 2 12, >where 5 3 is normal time control to play against a program and >at fics 2 12. > >Also at icc way faster hardware and way better players are there. >I don't play at fics myself because of lack of playing strength. > >I'm rated 2444 (diepeveen account) >myself btw right now, which is way below my TPR >in normal blitz event in for example Utrecht where i got over 2500 >because i got 12 out of 19 against masses of IM's and GM's, >so i'm underrated at ICC. > >Furthermore there is a beautiful interface at icc for chessplayers >called >blitzin. This is way better than good old winboard/xboard or other >interfaces. > >This all together explains why programs at icc are way higher rated, >unless there are some faults in it, because then there are always >players >who make good use out of it. > >Like the offering draw at move 1 of Diep, which is a major pain, just >like >forfeiting in drawn positions around move 130. >Nearly all accept that draw offer. > >At FICS they would miss it, as winboard doesn't clearly show the >drawoffer. >Not to talk about xboard. > >For my chessprogram winboard however is a great invention. > >Thanks Tim! > >Greetings, >Vincent Hello Vincent! I don't think that your observations regarding FICS and ICC are correct. Yes, there are more and stronger players on ICC, but the ratings are inflated as compared with FIDE ELO, and by extension as compared with FICS. Another thing, it is not the case that the most frequent time control on FICS is 2 12, I'd say that the commonest control is 3 0, or perhaps 5 0. A good proof for this is the strongest Crafty machine (the same characteristics on both servers), which is close to 300 pts apart -- Crafty being about 2650 on FICS, and 2950 on ICC. I am 2270 on FICS, having played most of my games at 3 0. I can offer you a friendly blitz match, say at 5 0, anytime you wish on FICS, so we can test the respective ratings in more detail. About the insufficient strength of players on FICS, you are wrong again. There are at least 30 players of IM strength there, and each evening you can run into at five or six of those... Another thing to illustrate the FICS ratings -- I know of at least five FMs, rated less than 2100 on FICS, and on ICC they would surely be over 2400. A new FICS acquisition, GM Robespierre is also there waiting for sceptics like you... Regards, Djordje (wolfv on FICS)
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