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Subject: Re: Test position ==> Kasparov-Ribli,1989

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 06:45:25 12/14/01

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On December 14, 2001 at 09:11:11, José Antônio Fabiano Mendes wrote:

>On December 14, 2001 at 09:07:56, José Antônio Fabiano Mendes wrote:
>
>>  Kasparov-Ribli,1989 [position discussed by Kasparov,Botvinnik,Vaganian,and
>>  in rec.games.chess by CC world-champion Hans Berliner and Feng-Hsiung Hsu]
>>  [D]5rk1/5ppp/p1Q1p3/1R6/q7/4b1P1/P2RPP1P/6K1 w
>>  And here Kasparov played 1. fxe3 and a draw was agreed. GM Vaganian
>>  suggested 1. Rd8! then 1...Qxb5 2. Qb6! Bxf2+ 3. Kxf2 Qf5+
>>  4. Kg1 Qb1 5. Kg2 Qe4 6. Kh3 Qf5 7. g4 Qf1
>> 8. Kg3 Qe1 9. Kf3 Qf1 10. Ke3 Qh3 11. Kd4 (if Kd2, then Qh6, K any g6 and the
>> Queen guards the rook, with an unclear ending) e5 12. Kd5 Qg2 13. Kc5 Qg1
>> 14. Kc6 Qh1 15. Kb6 Qb1 16. Ka7 Qg1 17. Ka6 and the checks stop.
>>   How today's chess programs judge this famous position ?

New position
[D]5rk1/5ppp/p1Q1p3/1R6/q7/4b1P1/P2RPP1P/6K1 w - - 0 1

Analysis by Gambit Tiger 2.0:

1.fxe3 Qxb5 2.Qxb5 axb5 3.Rd6 Rc8 4.Kf2 h5 5.Rb6 Rc5
  ³  (-0.38)   Depth: 9   00:00:00  94kN
1.fxe3 Qxb5 2.Qxb5 axb5 3.Rd6 f6 4.a3 Ra8 5.Rd3 e5 6.h3
  ³  (-0.46)   Depth: 9   00:00:00  142kN
1.Rd8 Qxb5 2.Rxf8+ Kxf8 3.Qd6+ Ke8 4.fxe3 Qb1+ 5.Kf2 Qf5+ 6.Kg1 Qg5 7.Qb8+ Ke7
8.Qb7+ Ke8
  ³  (-0.32)   Depth: 9   00:00:01  245kN
1.Rd8 Qxb5 2.Qd6 Bxf2+ 3.Kxf2 Re8 4.a4 Qf5+ 5.Kg1 Qb1+ 6.Kf2 Qf5+
  =  (-0.15)   Depth: 10   00:00:01  446kN
1.Rd8 Qxb5 2.Qd6 Bxf2+ 3.Kxf2 Re8 4.a4 Qf5+ 5.Kg1 Qb1+ 6.Kf2 Qf5+
  =  (-0.15)   Depth: 11   00:00:02  655kN
1.Rd8 Qxb5 2.Qd6 Bxf2+ 3.Kxf2 Re8 4.a4 Qf5+ 5.Kg1 Qb1+ 6.Kf2 Qf5+
  =  (-0.15)   Depth: 12   00:00:04  1012kN
1.Rd8 Qxb5 2.Qd6 Bxf2+ 3.Kxf2 Re8 4.a4 Qf5+ 5.Kg1 Qb1+ 6.Kf2 Qf5+
  =  (-0.15)   Depth: 13   00:00:06  1619kN
1.Rd8 Qxb5 2.Qd6 Bxf2+ 3.Kxf2 Re8 4.a4 Qf5+ 5.Kg1 Qb1+ 6.Kf2 Qf5+
  =  (-0.15)   Depth: 14   00:00:12  3127kN
1.Rd8 Qxb5 2.Qd6 Bxf2+ 3.Kxf2 Qf5+ 4.Kg1 Qb1+ 5.Kf2 Qf5+
  =  (-0.15)   Depth: 15   00:00:23  6189kN
1.Rd8 Qxb5 2.Qd6 Bxf2+ 3.Kxf2 Qf5+ 4.Kg1 Qb1+ 5.Kf2 Qf5+
  =  (-0.15)   Depth: 16   00:00:41  10974kN
1.Rd8 Qxb5 2.Qd6 Bxf2+ 3.Kxf2 Qf5+ 4.Kg1 Qb1+ 5.Kf2 Qf5+
  =  (-0.15)   Depth: 17   00:01:27  22521kN

(Blass, Tel-aviv 14.12.2001)

After 8 plies in the main line:

New position
3R1rk1/5ppp/p2Qp3/8/8/6P1/P3P2P/1q4K1 w - - 0 1

Analysis by Gambit Tiger 2.0:

5.Kg2
  ±  (0.90)   Depth: 13   00:00:00  108kN
5.Kg2
  +-  (1.80)   Depth: 13   00:00:02  597kN
5.Kg2
  +-  (1.80)   Depth: 14   00:00:02  705kN
5.Kg2
  +-  (2.70)   Depth: 14   00:00:06  1528kN
5.Kg2 Qe4+ 6.Kh3 Qf5+ 7.g4 Qf1+ 8.Kg3 Qe1+ 9.Kf3 Qf1+ 10.Ke3 Qc1+ 11.Kf2 Qf4+
12.Qxf4 Rxd8 13.Qc4 a5
  +-  (4.42)   Depth: 14   00:00:20  5203kN
5.Kg2 Qe4+
  +-  (4.42)   Depth: 15   00:00:21  5259kN

(Blass, Tel-aviv 14.12.2001)

Yace (only material evaluation)
New position
[D]3R1rk1/5ppp/p2Qp3/8/8/6P1/P3P2P/1q4K1 w - - 0 1

Analysis by Yace 0.99.56:

5.Qd1 Qxa2
  -+  (-1.60)   Depth: 1   00:00:07
5.Kg2
  µ  (-0.80)   Depth: 1   00:00:07
5.Kg2 Qb7+ 6.Kf2
  µ  (-0.80)   Depth: 2   00:00:07
5.Kg2 Qb7+ 6.Kg1 Qa7+ 7.Kg2 Qb7+
  =  (0.00)   Depth: 3   00:00:07
5.Kg2 Qe4+ 6.Kf2 Qf5+
  =  (0.00)   Depth: 3   00:00:08
5.Kg2 Qe4+ 6.Kf2 Qf5+
  =  (0.00)   Depth: 4   00:00:08
5.Kg2 Qe4+ 6.Kf2 Qf5+
  =  (0.00)   Depth: 5   00:00:10  4kN
5.Kg2 Qe4+ 6.Kh3 Qf5+ 7.g4 Qf1+ 8.Kg3 Qe1+ 9.Kf3 Qf1+ 10.Ke3 Qh3+ 11.Kd4 e5+
12.Kd5 Qg2+ 13.Kc5 Qf2+ 14.Kc6 h6 15.Rxf8+ Kh7
  ²  (0.40)   Depth: 9   00:00:30  175kN
5.Kg2 Qe4+ 6.Kh3 Qf5+ 7.g4 Qf1+ 8.Kg3 Qe1+ 9.Kf3 Qf1+ 10.Ke3 Qh3+ 11.Kd4 e5+
12.Kd5 Qg2+ 13.Kc5 Qg1+ 14.Kc6 Qc1+ 15.Kb7 Qb1+ 16.Kc7 Qc2+ 17.Kb7 Qc1 18.Rxf8#
  ²  (0.47)   Depth: 9   00:00:30  175kN
5.Kg2 Qe4+ 6.Kh3 Qf5+ 7.g4 Qf1+ 8.Kg3 Qe1+ 9.Kf3 Qf1+ 10.Ke3 Qh3+ 11.Kd4 e5+
12.Kd5 Qg2+ 13.Kc5 Qg1+ 14.Kc6 Qc1+ 15.Kb7 g6 16.Rxf8+ Kg7
  ±  (0.87)   Depth: 10   00:00:31  458kN
5.Kg2 Qe4+ 6.Kh3 Qf5+ 7.g4 Qf1+ 8.Kg3 Qe1+ 9.Kf3 Qf1+ 10.Ke3 Qh3+ 11.Kd4 e5+
12.Kd5 Qg2+ 13.Kc5 Qg1+ 14.Kc6 Qc1+ 15.Kb7 Qb1+ 16.Ka7 Qg1+ 17.Kxa6 Qh1
  +-  (1.96)   Depth: 10   00:00:31  547kN
5.Kg2 Qe4+ 6.Kh3 Qf5+ 7.g4 Qf1+ 8.Kg3 Qe1+ 9.Kf3 Qf1+ 10.Ke3 Qh3+ 11.Kd4 e5+
12.Kd5 Qg2+ 13.Kc5 Qg1+ 14.Kc6 Qc1+ 15.Kb7 Qb1+ 16.Ka7 h6 17.Rxf8+ Kh7
  +-  (2.36)   Depth: 11   00:00:32  1045kN
5.Kg2 Qe4+ 6.Kh3 Qf5+ 7.g4 Qf1+ 8.Kg3 Qe1+ 9.Kf3 Qf1+ 10.Ke3 Qh3+ 11.Kd4 e5+
12.Kd5 Qg2+ 13.Kc5 Qg1+ 14.Kc6 Qc1+ 15.Kb7 Qh1+ 16.Kxa6 h6 17.Rxf8+ Kh7
  +-  (3.36)   Depth: 11   00:00:35  2637kN
5.Kg2 Qe4+ 6.Kh3 Qf5+ 7.g4 Qf1+ 8.Kg3 Qe1+ 9.Kf3 Qf1+ 10.Ke3 Qh3+ 11.Kd4 Qxg4+
12.Kc3 h6 13.Rxf8+ Kh7 14.Rxf7 a5 15.Qf8 e5
  +-  (4.20)   Depth: 11   00:00:43  6807kN

(Blass, Tel-aviv 14.12.2001)

After some learning the main line of the root position

New position
5rk1/5ppp/p1Q1p3/1R6/q7/4b1P1/P2RPP1P/6K1 w - - 0 1

Analysis by Yace 0.99.56:

1.fxe3 axb5
  =  (0.00)   Depth: 1   00:00:00
1.Rd8 Rxd8 2.Rd5 exd5 3.Qxa4 Bh6 4.Qa5 Re8 5.Qxa6 f6 6.Kg2 Kf7 7.f3 d4 8.Kh3 Re7
9.g4
  +-  (2.31)   Depth: 1   00:00:00
1.Rd8 Rxd8 2.Rd5 exd5 3.Qxa4 Bh6 4.Qa5 Re8 5.Qxa6 f6 6.Kg2 Kf7 7.f3 d4 8.Kh3 Re7
9.g4
  +-  (2.31)   Depth: 2   00:00:00
1.Rd8 Rxd8 2.Rd5 exd5 3.Qxa4 Bh6 4.Qa5 Re8 5.Qxa6 f6 6.Kg2 Kf7 7.f3 d4 8.Kh3 Re7
9.g4
  +-  (2.31)   Depth: 3   00:00:00
1.Rd8 Rxd8 2.Rd5 exd5 3.Qxa4 Bh6 4.Qa5 Re8 5.Qxa6 f6 6.Kg2 Kf7 7.f3 d4 8.Kh3 Re7
9.g4
  +-  (2.31)   Depth: 4   00:00:00
1.Rd8 Rxd8 2.Rd5 exd5 3.Qxa4 Bh6 4.Qa5 Re8 5.Qxa6 f6 6.Kg2 Kf7 7.f3 d4 8.Kh3 Re7
9.g4
  +-  (2.31)   Depth: 5   00:00:00  1kN
1.Rd8 Rxd8 2.Rd5 exd5 3.Qxa4 Bh6 4.Qa5 Re8 5.Qxa6 f6 6.Kg2 Kf7 7.f3 d4 8.Kh3 Re7
9.g4
  +-  (2.31)   Depth: 6   00:00:00  6kN
1.Rd8 Rxd8 2.Rd5 exd5 3.Qxa4 Bh6 4.Qa5 Re8 5.Qxa6 f6 6.Kg2 Kf7 7.f3 d4 8.Kh3 Re7
9.g4
  +-  (2.31)   Depth: 7   00:00:00  23kN
1.Rd8 Rxd8 2.Rd5 exd5 3.Qxa4 Bh6 4.Qa5 Re8 5.Qxa6 f6 6.Kg2 Kf7 7.f3 d4 8.Kh3 Re7
9.g4
  +-  (2.31)   Depth: 8   00:00:00  61kN
1.Rd8 Rxd8 2.Rd5 exd5 3.Qxa4 Bh6 4.Qa5 Re8 5.Qxa6 f6 6.Kg2 Kf7 7.f3 d4 8.Kh3 Re7
9.g4
  +-  (2.31)   Depth: 9   00:00:00  119kN
1.Rd8 Rxd8 2.Rd5 exd5 3.Qxa4 Bh6 4.Qa5 Re8 5.Qxa6 f6 6.Kg2 Kf7 7.f3 d4 8.Kh3 Re7
9.g4
  +-  (2.31)   Depth: 10   00:00:00  382kN
1.Rd8 Rxd8 2.Rd5 exd5 3.Qxa4 Bh6 4.Qa5 Re8 5.Qxa6 f6 6.Kg2 Kf7 7.f3 d4 8.Kh3 Re7
9.g4
  +-  (2.31)   Depth: 11   00:00:01  887kN
1.Rd8 Rxd8 2.Rd5 exd5 3.Qxa4 Bh6 4.Qa5 Re8 5.Qxa6 f6 6.Kg2 Kf7 7.f3 d4 8.Kh3 Re7
9.g4
  +-  (2.31)   Depth: 12   00:00:03  2060kN
1.Rd8 Rxd8 2.Rd5 exd5 3.Qxa4 Bh6 4.Qa5 Re8 5.Qxa6 f6 6.Kg2 Kf7 7.f3 d4 8.Kh3 Re7
9.g4
  +-  (2.31)   Depth: 13   00:00:07  4472kN
1.Rd8 Rxd8 2.Rd5 exd5 3.Qxa4 Bh6 4.Qa5 Re8 5.Qxa6 f6 6.Kg2 Kf7 7.f3 d4 8.Kh3 Re7
9.g4
  +-  (2.31)   Depth: 14   00:00:16  10440kN

(Blass, Tel-aviv 14.12.2001)


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