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Subject: Re: ICC open computer chess tournament

Author: Vincent Diepeveen

Date: 12:33:03 12/14/01

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On December 14, 2001 at 11:12:06, Slater Wold wrote:

>On December 14, 2001 at 00:13:30, Michel Langeveld wrote:
>
>>On December 13, 2001 at 20:14:31, K. Burcham wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>why are the guys putting this tournament on worried about program operators
>>>running in manual?  if this is an "open" tournament, it should be anything goes.
>>>
>>>kburcham
>>>
>>>
>>>GENERAL REQUIREMENTS:
>>>
>>>- ICC Blitz rating of at least 2200
>>>- Automated program directly interfaced to ICC (no manual operators)
>>>- Must accept challenges from other (C)omputers (no “!computer” in formula)
>>>- Must disclose hardware specifications including CPU speed and hash table size
>>
>>
>>
>>My ICC Rating of Nullmover is currently 1995. I don't see any sense of putting
>>an elolimit of 2200.
>
>I think if you wrote the engine, the rating should be overlooked.  Say someone
>modifies Crafty, gives it a new name, and it's 1500 on ICC, why would anyone
>want to see that in a tournament?  I think that's what he was trying to prevent.

Comon this is nonsense. He just shouts some to the left and right without
doing anything. the whole tournament setup is a joke kind of.


>>In CCT3 I have operated SOS manual. SOS is capable of playing auto232 and UCI
>>but it's was too difficult for me to get it work quickly. SOS received good
>>results and with that rule above SOS would not be there. I don't see no sense in
>>claiming a program to be automatically to run on ICC.
>
>Look at my other post on this thread.
>
>>About the formula. If people only want to play humans. Well let them do so.
>
>(C) operators that play anyone and anything don't hold the !computer (C)'s in a
>real high regard.  They make it more difficult for us to play the good GM's, by
>inflating their ratings (compared to others playing all).  The only real
>exclusion is Scrappy, I believe Bob had a good idea there, even if we all knew
>what the result would be.  :)
>
>!computer operators are obviously only interested in playing humans, and I see
>no reason to invite them to participate in a computer tournament.
>
>>There are also program participating in CCT4 which are not on ICC at the moment.
>>When they join they will be there for the first time..... So there will be no
>>computer vs computer information at all for these.
>
>This tournament has ICC in the title, it is for those who have ICC accounts.
>Not people who just want to be in a tournament.



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