Author: Uri Blass
Date: 14:29:06 12/14/01
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On December 14, 2001 at 17:09:54, Thorsten Czub wrote: >Hi , the eleventh round has been finished. >Due to the fact that i can now play 2 games parallel (1st game on the 400 mhz >machines, and 2nd game on the 1200 mhz machines), the whole process fastens a >little. Of course we still have a few rounds until we reach round 15, the final >round. I began this tournament last year november. It now has taken over a year, >and it looks i will not be ready 2001. But we are coming closer to the final. It >is an ODYSSEY ! >you should better not forget this J) > >here the sensational results of round 11: > ><pre> > Tournament: Odyssee-Tournament > Results Mode Round No 11 >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > 1. SHREDDER5, (1) - (24) YACE BERLIN, ½:½ > 2. GANDALF432H, (11) - (2) GAMBIT-TIGER14.6, ½:½ > 3. REBEL-CENTURY4, (10) - (12) PHARAON 2.5, 1:0 > 4. NIMZO8, (20) - (5) SHREDDER4 CHESSBITS, 0:1 > 5. HIARCS7.01, (4) - (8) DEEP FRITZ, 1:0 > 6. JUNIOR7, (9) - (6) CHESSMASTER8000 1.0.4., 0:1 > 7. GENIUS6.5 CZUB-STYLE, (21) - (7) VIRTUAL-CHESS2, 0:1 > 8. PATZER311B, (17) - (14) CHESS SYSTEM TAL2.03, ½:½ > 9. ZARKOV4.5T, (13) - (19) CRAFTY 18.12, 0:1 >10. WCHESS2000, (15) - (3) REBEL-TIGER14.6, 0:1 >11. LITTLE-GOLIATH2000V3, (16) - (18) COMET B36, 1:0 >12. MCHESS8, (23) - (22) SOCRATES X, 0:1 >13. GROMIT 3.8.1, (26) - (25) EUGEN7.92, 1:0 ></pre> > >Yace was able to make a draw against shredder !! >Isn't this unbelievable ??! Bravo !! >Also Gambit-Tiger made a draw versus Gandalf. Wow. Rebel killed Pharaon. >Hiarcs was able to kill Deep Fritz. And Chessmaster won against Junior7. >Crafty was not impressed by any new paradigm stuff. Also sensational: Socrates >killed Mchess ! it seems we know now against which program the programmers of >socrates always trained against :-)) >ChessSystemTal2.03 for the first time played with a new styling. The >czub2001.sty. >It knocks off nullmove-search and this seems to help much. On the fast machines >we have today, nullmove is not important for a knowledge based program. > >this gives the following standing after 11 rounds: > ><pre> > Tournament: Odyssee-Tournament >Place Name Sco MBch Buch Ws >------------------------------------------------------------- > 1 SHREDDER5, (1) 9.0 54 65 7 > 2 GAMBIT-TIGER14.6, (2) 8.0 51½ 65 6 > 3 REBEL-CENTURY4, (10) 7.5 55 68½ 6 > 4-5 YACE BERLIN, (24) 6.5 51½ 63½ 4 > GANDALF432H, (11) 6.5 47 57½ 5 > 6-12 NIMZO8, (20) 6.0 56½ 70 5 > PHARAON 2.5, (12) 6.0 54 64½ 4 > CHESSMASTER8000 1.0.4., (6) 6.0 52½ 63 5 > CRAFTY 18.12, (19) 6.0 50½ 60½ 5 > SHREDDER4 CHESSBITS, (5) 6.0 48½ 58 3 > HIARCS7.01, (4) 6.0 45½ 53 4 > VIRTUAL-CHESS2, (7) 6.0 42 49½ 5 >13-18 JUNIOR7, (9) 5.5 56½ 68 3 > DEEP FRITZ, (8) 5.5 56 69½ 3 > PATZER311B, (17) 5.5 56 67½ 3 > GROMIT 3.8.1, (26) 5.5 48½ 58 3 > CHESS SYSTEM TAL2.03, (14) 5.5 46½ 58½ 2 > REBEL-TIGER14.6, (3) 5.5 46 53½ 3 >19-20 GENIUS6.5 CZUB-STYLE, (21) 5.0 46½ 56 3 > LITTLE-GOLIATH2000V3, (16) 5.0 44½ 52½ 3 >21-23 MCHESS8, (23) 4.5 54½ 65 3 > ZARKOV4.5T, (13) 4.5 52 61 3 > WCHESS2000, (15) 4.5 50 59½ 2 > 24 COMET B36, (18) 3.0 47½ 58 2 > 25 SOCRATES X, (22) 2.5 45 53 2 > 26 EUGEN7.92, (25) 1.5 46½ 55 0 ></pre> > >the games can be seen as pgn’s beneath this article. > >i spoke to stefan meyer kahlen, he said he is still very surprised shredder is >leading. >ok. in the next rounds i think we will see a couple of new programs appear. this >makes it even more interesting. how much will the new shredder be stronger ? how >much is century4 stronger ? how much fritz7 ? > >The first upgrade we have is Deep Fritz will be upgraded into Fritz7 in round >12. > >About and with this program i had my first nightmare shock. >but more later. > >I think other programs will follow soon. > >Here the pairings for round 12: > ><pre> > Tournament: Odyssee-Tournament > Results Mode Round No 12 >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > 1. GANDALF432H, (11) - (1) SHREDDER5, > 2. GAMBIT-TIGER14.6, (2) - (24) YACE BERLIN, > 3. HIARCS7.01, (4) - (10) REBEL-CENTURY4, > 4. PHARAON 2.5, (12) - (5) SHREDDER4 CHESSBITS, > 5. CHESSMASTER8000 1.0.4., (6) - (7) VIRTUAL-CHESS2, > 6. CRAFTY 18.12, (19) - (9) JUNIOR7, > 7. NIMZO8, (20) - (17) PATZER311B, > 8. REBEL-TIGER14.6, (3) - (14) CHESS SYSTEM TAL2.03, > 9. FRITZ7, (8) - (26) GROMIT 3.8.1, >10. GENIUS6.5 CZUB-STYLE, (21) - (16) LITTLE-GOLIATH2000V3, >11. COMET B36, (18) - (13) ZARKOV4.5T, >12. SOCRATES X, (22) - (15) WCHESS2000, >13. EUGEN7.92, (25) - (23) MCHESS8, ></pre> > > > > >gandalf fought against shredder... and --- made a draw !! >gambit-tiger against yace .... made a draw !! wow ! >rebel-tiger versus chess system tal... made a draw !! > > > >the deep fritz --> fritz7 upgrade-shock: > >After installing fritz7 on my machines, i played the game against gromit for >round 12. > >You can maybe understand how i felt when i saw THIS ugly and strange game of >fritz7, like fritz7 playing (with 2 joints) under drugs: > >[Event "Odyssey2001-Tournament"] >[Site "k6-400, 40/120"] >[Date "2001.12.14"] >[Round "12"] >[White "Fritz7"] >[Black "Gromit 3.8.1"] >[Result "0-1"] >[ECO "A28"] >[PlyCount "56"] >[EventDate "2001.12.14"] > >1. c4 Nf6 2. Nc3 e5 3. Nf3 Nc6 4. e3 Be7 5. a3 O-O 6. b4 d6 7. Qc2 Re8 8. Bb2 >Bf8 9. d3 g6 10. Be2 Bg7 11. O-O Ng4 12. Nd5 Bf5 13. Nd2 Ne7 14. h3 Nh6 15. Nc3 >Qd7 16. g4 Be6 17. g5 Nhf5 18. Nde4 Nh4 19. Nf6+ Bxf6 20. gxf6 Bxh3 21. fxe7 >Bg2 22. f3 Qh3 23. Rfc1 Rxe7 24. Nd5 Re6 25. Kf2 c6 26. Nc7 Rf6 27. Ke1 Rc8 28. >Kd2 Nxf3+ 0-1 > >I stopped the game here. I was completely shocked. >why is fritz allowing black to completely invade whites king position (move >22.Qh3) . After 23...Rxe7 fritz7 is reduced to death. >How can fritz7 evaluate the position after 23...Rxe7 with (when you know my >critics over the years you will laugh about this running gag) 0.04 in favour of >white, playing Nd5 after 6'36" computation? This version of Fritz is not the worst in that position my yace version can see even 0.12 for white and yace is one of the programs with good results in your tournament. I guess that your yace has also a similiar evaluation Fritz7 - Gromit 3.8.1 [D]r5k1/ppp1rp1p/3p2p1/4p3/1PP4n/P1NPPP1q/1BQ1B1b1/R1R3K1 w - - 0 1 Analysis by Yace 0.99.56: 24.e4 Bxf3 25.Bxf3 Nxf3+ 26.Kf2 ³ (-0.28) Depth: 1 00:00:00 24.a4 Bxf3 25.Bxf3 Nxf3+ 26.Kf2 ³ (-0.27) Depth: 1 00:00:00 24.Ne4 Bxf3 = (-0.25) Depth: 1 00:00:00 24.Nd5 ± (1.27) Depth: 1 00:00:00 24.Nd5 Rd7 ± (1.28) Depth: 2 00:00:00 24.Nd5 Ree8 25.Nxc7 Nxf3+ 26.Bxf3 Bxf3 27.Nxa8 Rxa8 +- (1.69) Depth: 3 00:00:00 24.Nd5 Re6 25.Nxc7 +- (1.98) Depth: 3 00:00:00 24.Nd5 Re6 25.Nxc7 Qh1+ 26.Kf2 +- (2.24) Depth: 4 00:00:00 24.Nd5 Re6 25.Nxc7 Bxf3 26.Kf2 Qg2+ 27.Ke1 +- (1.84) Depth: 5 00:00:00 5kN 24.Nd5 Kf8 25.Kf2 Nxf3 26.Nxe7 Kxe7 27.d4 +- (1.46) Depth: 6 00:00:00 60kN 24.Nd5 Re6 25.Nxc7 Qg3 26.Bxe5 Rxe5 27.Bf1 ± (1.06) Depth: 7 00:00:00 276kN 24.Nd5 Re6 25.Kf2 Nxf3 26.Nxc7 Rf6 27.Nd5 Rf5 ² (0.61) Depth: 7 00:00:01 337kN 24.Nd5 Qg3 25.Nxe7+ Kf8 26.Qd1 Nxf3+ 27.Bxf3 Bxf3+ 28.Kf1 Bxd1 29.Rxd1 = (0.21) Depth: 8 00:00:04 1543kN 24.Nd5 Qg3 25.Nf6+ Kf8 26.Ne4 Qh3 27.c5 Nxf3+ 28.Bxf3 Bxf3 = (0.16) Depth: 8 00:00:05 1974kN 24.Nd5 Qg3 25.Nf6+ Kg7 26.Ne4 Qh3 27.Ng5 Qg3 28.Ne4 = (0.00) Depth: 9 00:00:10 4066kN 24.Nd5 Qg3 25.Nf6+ Kf8 26.Ne4 Qh3 27.Ng5 Qg3 28.Ne4 = (0.00) Depth: 10 00:00:41 16716kN 24.Nd5 Qg3 25.Nf6+ Kf8 26.Ne4 Qh3 27.c5 Bxf3 28.Bxf3 Qxf3 29.Qf2 Qg4+ 30.Kf1 Nf5 31.cxd6 Nxd6 = (0.13) Depth: 11 00:01:37 38029kN 24.Nd5 Re6 25.Kf2 Rf8 26.Ke1 c6 27.Nc3 Nxf3+ 28.Bxf3 Bxf3 29.Ne2 = (0.12) Depth: 12 00:05:54 127433kN (Blass, Tel-aviv 15.12.2001) Uri
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