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Subject: Re: 3 Tactical positions showing the superiority of CM 8000 over Fritz6

Author: Marc van Hal

Date: 16:11:58 12/14/01

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On December 14, 2001 at 15:08:27, ALI MIRAFZALI wrote:

>It is Strange for me that the Fritz family has a reputation of being a
>tactical wizard while in fact my own research shows that the program
>is tactically inferior to many other programs .Here is 3 positions and
>a Comparison between Fritz6 and chessmaster 8000.The first position is from the
>game Beliavsky vs Smirin (1989)
>[D]4n1k1/1bp3b1/p1q4p/1p2n3/5N2/2P3N1/PP1r1PP1/1RQ1R1K1 b
>here Beliavsky played 28...Rxf2!! The game ended 29.Kxf2 Nd3+ 30.Nxd3 Qxg2+
>31.Ke3 Nd6 32.Rf1 Nc4+ 33.Kf4 Qd5 34.Kg4 Bc8+ 35.Kh4 Qd8+ 36.Kh5 Qe8+
>37.Kh4 Qe7+ 38.Kh5 Ne3 0-1
>The position was tested on a 500 Mhz Computer .CM8000 finds 28...Rxf2!! in
>53 seconds .While Fritz6 needs 1 Hour and 6 minutes to find 28...Rxf2!!
>The second position is from the game Richter vs Abramavicius (1930)
>[D]2rqrnk1/pp3pb1/6p1/4pbP1/3pN2R/3B1N2/PPP2P2/2K2Q1R w
>Here Richter played 19.Rh8+!! and won.
>The position was tested on a 500 Mhz Computer .CM 8000 finds 19.Rh8+!!
>in 3minutes and 22 seconds.Fritz 6does not find the solution here even
>after 24 hours.
>The third position is from the game Kaidonov vs Donaldson
>[D]rq3rk1/1b1n1ppp/ppn1p3/3pP3/5B2/2NBP2P/PP2QPP1/2RR2K1 w
>The position was tested on a 700 Mhz Computer.
>CM8000 finds 16.Nxd5!! in 2 hours and 21 minutes .While Fritz6 does not
>see it even after 24 hours.
>Please indicate the results of your program for these positions.

The setting of Fritz6 where just to greedy Deep Fritz already was an improvement
But still did not have the poisen from Fritz5.32
I am intrested to know if Fritz7 is still greedy.
But if you look at games I know am colecting with Rebel Century4 you can see
CM8000 is maybe good in atacking but not in defending.
Which is actualy kind of strange it also was for this reason I had  putan
improvement in kingsafety on my wish list for the upcomming Chessmaster.




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